Blasphemy Chorus

[Think_ThuGLiFE]

LOL @ this fukin thread

 

[Blackice]

oh come on... i hope that you are able to discern the difference between literal and figurative devices in lyrics. if you're not, then one should question why you're even listening at all...

"we're probably inhell already..."
this line is face value and requires a minute amount of imagination from the listener. there is no meaning between the lines.
"mama a virgin..."
obviously this is not possible in the traditional sense, and a cursory knowledge of religion would show that pac is not being literal.

rene, like i said, it's not rocket science. 2pac isn't giving the secret to alchemy, he's using creative devices in his lyrics to convey meaning instead of bashing you over the head with the obvious. any good author or lyricist does this.

I don't like you :thumb:

anyways... back on topic

I love this song, just the intro to it kind of annoys me, I don't mind listening to it once, but I want to hear the song, not some creepy ass voice.

It's by far one of his deepest songs with layers to everything he said. You can look in a sentence he made in the song and realise that it means like, 3 or 4 things at the same time. I love it when Pac did that.

 

[Euphanasia]

I agree with a lot of the interpretations of this song that have been posted thus far. I feel that this is probably Tupac's most complex song and when I listen to it, I often find myself thinking back to what 'Pac said in his interview with Vibe in '96:

"I'm not saying I'm Jesus, but I'm saying we go through that type of thing everyday. We don't part the Red Sea but we walk through the hood without getting shot. We don't turn water into wine but we turn dope fiends and dope heads into productive citizens of society."

Perhaps another message Tupac was trying to get at was his conviction that God has more respect for people who do these good deeds (analagous to those in the bible) rather than those who preach belief and love for God but fail to practice it in their daily lives. In other words, he is closer to God for changing "dope fiends" into "productive citizens of society" than someone who is merely "kissing ass to get to heaven"

Peace

 

[ApacalypseNow]

i fail to see how you can type in english and not understand lines that don't mean anything more than what the obvious syntax does.

lol right on man, common sense baby

 

[HarveyDent]

I know not many agree with me but I still contend that the chours has double meaning! I think Blasphymy is a play on words. he is also saying hid father told him to "Blast for Me", as in shoot those that did him wrong.

 

[EDouble]

^Yeah thats been brought up b4.

Ay shit with that PRBABLY IN HELL ALREADY, KISSIN ASS TO GO TO HEAVEN AIN'T GOIN lines I never thought bout it as...since could be in hell already, people kissin ass is doin no good. I took the lines seperate in that...Probably in hell already...hell on earth,well not eraly Hell on earth but figurative that there actualy Isn't a hell and we have to live down here thru all the pain etc. and the second line saying everybody that goes around kissin ass and always goin to church and praisin and condemin others...they won't get into heaven.

Could be taken 2 ways? Oh and the shit thats got me 2 maybe thinkin its like liek what u said dante is the 'Already'. like time's already passsed and were livin blinded in hell.

 

[EDouble]

One way to interpret it also would be since his real father was never there it was almost as if she became pregnant on her own. Virgin birth.

dont know if it could hold that kind of meanin but never know. I just always thought like maybe somebody else in here mentioned that pac was just placin himself in stories of the bible & shit. and applyin everythin in todays tongue and further analyzin society
and even with that line, makin light of jesus bein' god's son and addin 'mama a virgin' just to further blasphemize (?)

pzz

 

[cookies]

only makaveli can do songs like that, not that weak ass girly man 2pac

Exit 2pac; Enter Makaveli

lmao, where is this fool these days. btw alot of good interpretations but we'll never know which is right. shit, some people have tooo much spare time.

 

[xxx]

Perhaps another message Tupac was trying to get at was his conviction that God has more respect for people who do these good deeds (analagous to those in the bible) rather than those who preach belief and love for God but fail to practice it in their daily lives. In other words, he is closer to God for changing "dope fiends" into "productive citizens of society" than someone who is merely "kissing ass to get to heaven"

Peace

Couldnt agree more.

I dont think Pac meant that since we are in hell already, kissin ass is useless to get into heaven. I think he meant that he puts his soul into everything he does whether portrayed as right/wrong. While others act without care and kiss God's ass in hopes of getting to heaven (like where he mentions the preacher getting richer, he mentions that in 16 on DR too, or maybe only fear of death).



Any discussions on "I leave this here and hope God see my heart is pure. Is Heaven just another door?"

 

[Euphanasia]

Couldnt agree more.

I dont think Pac meant that since we are in hell already, kissin ass is useless to get into heaven. I think he meant that he puts his soul into everything he does whether portrayed as right/wrong. While others act without care and kiss God's ass in hopes of getting to heaven (like where he mentions the preacher getting richer, he mentions that in 16 on DR too, or maybe only fear of death).



Any discussions on "I leave this here and hope God see my heart is pure. Is Heaven just another door?"

That line alone is also a good topic for discussion. Maybe he's saying that although his opinions and interpretations (as stated in the song) may be controversial as well as his lifestyle, which we all know was constantly under scrutiny by the media and activists alike, he always kept it real and stood up for what he believed in. As far as "heaven" being "just another door?" Perhaps the immense pain and suffering that he endured in his life made him skeptical that Heaven could be a perfect place where he would be happy and he is wondering if it's just another door that will one day lead to happiness as opposed to an actual paradise. I really don't know though, I'm just thinking out loud. I wish he'd lived long enough to answer some questions about this song and where his mind was when he wrote it.

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[Fx44]

i fail to see how you can type in english and not understand lines that don't mean anything more than what the obvious syntax does.

People can write english, but it doesnt mean its their first language, so what might be obvious to you might not be so obvious to others, remember that out here in the "internet world" we are from different and diverse cultures (im from Botswana my first language is tswana, look it up if U dont know where that is) with different ways of interpreting english, especially if its not a simple, "A cat is sitting on the bread" statement, so please chill with the "Duh" statements, we are not all mighty DANTEs.

as for "I leave this here and hope God see my heart is pure. Is Heaven just another door?", let me try and take a squeeze at that, im feeling what PurelyPac said. But i dont think he is saying that because of his pain,,correct me because I know i am more then likely to be wrong but,,i think the is an interview somewhere where he says something like he is not perfect, he does what he can to help out society, so he feels like he is going to heavan (in ressurection I think).

SO, he doesnt necesarily beleive that going to heaven takes a suit and a trip to church every sunday, and if that is what it takes to get to "Heavan" as we know it, then the has to be another heaven (like PurelyPac says)...,so he is merely asking, cause according to the the church, u need to follow certain rules to get to heavan, yet he feels (his heart is pure) he is going to heaven, so he is praying the is another Door to paradise if you can only get to the "heavan door" through church rules, hence the reference to God.

Just my interpretation people.....

Peace/Love

 

[Dante]

with different ways of interpreting english, especially if its not a simple, "A cat is sitting on the bread" statement, so please chill with the "Duh" statements, we are not all mighty DANTEs.

sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, friend

 

[Dominator]

People can write english, but it doesnt mean its their first language, so what might be obvious to you might not be so obvious to others, remember that out here in the "internet world" we are from different and diverse cultures (im from Botswana my first language is tswana, look it up if U dont know where that is) with different ways of interpreting english, especially if its not a simple, "A cat is sitting on the bread" statement, so please chill with the "Duh" statements, we are not all mighty DANTEs. [...]

True. People that can write english but that doesn't mean they can understand everything automatically. I mean, some people are not even able to understand a second meaning of a simple english sentence. When this american girl visited us at home she told a joke about lil red riding hood. At the end, when the wulf was ready to kill lil red riding hood, she said to the wolf "[...] no, do it like it stands in the book... eat the woman...". Back then i thought "eat" as in eating food, later i learned it has second meaning. Catch my drift?