Dying 'good samaritan' ignored.

[Flipmo]

Surveillance video footage showed Hugo Tale-Yax, a homeless man, collapsing with stab wounds on a pavement shortly after stopping the mugger who was armed with a knife.

He lay dying in a pool of blood as people strolled past, some pausing briefly to look at him.

Another man bent down to shake him, lifting him to reveal the pool of blood, but he still walked away.

When police and firemen finally arrived at 7.23am on Sunday in the Jamaica neighbourhood of Queens to find Mr Tale-Yax was dead, he had been lying there for an hour and 40 minutes.

The same video footage showed an unidentified woman earlier being accosted by a man who was then involved with a scuffle with Mr Tale-Yax.

As the other two fled in opposite directions, Mr Tale-Yax staggered a few yards before collapsing with several stab wounds in his body.

Firefighters said they were responding to an emergency call when they found the dead man. Police said they received three calls, one about a screaming woman and another about a man lying in the street. However, both calls apparently gave the wrong address and officers only found the dead man following a third call.

The incident has reminded New Yorkers of the notorious killing in 1964 of Kitty Genovese, who was stabbed to death at an apartment building in Queens. Around a dozen neighbours heard her screams but did not call police.

Dying 'good Samaritan' ignored by 20 people - Telegraph

I love humanity, I really do...

Edit: This rolleyes smiley sucks dick.

 

[Preach]

In Norway there was a case where someone got stabbed on someone's doorsteps. The person living there had woken up to faintly hearing someone outside their window "Please don't, I'll give you anything, please, don't do it, please" and then a bunch of noises and semi-screams.

Blaming humanity is simple, but this has nothing to do with humanity. The person committing the crime was crazy. People apparently tried shaking the victim (to reveal the pool of blood). It's not like they ignored a man screaming for help is it? Some guy dies and he gets to lay on the pavement for an hour before someone comes to pick him up due to bad address description, and so it turns into how people ignored him? Is that really what happened? Person is lying there, bleeding, asking for help, people walk by and do nothing? The text was kinda unclear about that fact, but if I found a dead person on the street I wouldn't necessarily pick him up and carry him on my shoulder, and I wouldn't necessarily stand there and look at him, so what else but to ignore him is there to do?

What I find way worse was that asian police officer who had his lower part of his body chopped off and lay there in the street. If anyone in that crowd had had any decency they would have removed the officers gun from his holster and shot him right in the mouth to relieve him of his misery. :>

 

[ARon]

I don't know maybe call the police, see if he is still alive and breathing, try something to help your fellow man instead of walking by ignoring him.

 

[Flipmo]

In Norway there was a case where someone got stabbed on someone's doorsteps. The person living there had woken up to faintly hearing someone outside their window "Please don't, I'll give you anything, please, don't do it, please" and then a bunch of noises and semi-screams.

Blaming humanity is simple, but this has nothing to do with humanity. The person committing the crime was crazy. People apparently tried shaking the victim (to reveal the pool of blood). It's not like they ignored a man screaming for help is it? Some guy dies and he gets to lay on the pavement for an hour before someone comes to pick him up due to bad address description, and so it turns into how people ignored him? Is that really what happened? Person is lying there, bleeding, asking for help, people walk by and do nothing? The text was kinda unclear about that fact, but if I found a dead person on the street I wouldn't necessarily pick him up and carry him on my shoulder, and I wouldn't necessarily stand there and look at him, so what else but to ignore him is there to do?

What I find way worse was that asian police officer who had his lower part of his body chopped off and lay there in the street. If anyone in that crowd had had any decency they would have removed the officers gun from his holster and shot him right in the mouth to relieve him of his misery. :>

No one reported it when it should have been, it took some time before it happened.
They walked past the body without a care. The guy who shaked him and saw blood, left him there, and walked off.
He wasn't dead at first, he bled for a long while before dying, as people passed by. There is much that can be done, calling the ambulance, holding the the wound to stop the bleeding too much, shit... you yell "Someone call 911" ...

The matter of a fact is, people are shit. It happens all the time, people are pussies to take the initiative and do what's right, cause fuck, it's so much easier to just tell yourself: "Meh, someone else can do it, I don't have to be bothered"

It's social responsibility to lend a hand to someone in their time of need whether it is human or animal. The saddest part is this man was homeless, and he took a stab wound after saving someone else, the guy has probably been ignored and treated like shit by passersby ever since he's been on the street, but yet he has the decency to step in when most ppl would shy away like cowards.

Fuck humanity.

 

[Preach]

Oh okay, I hear you now. I agree, but I'm not a pussy like tha,t and humans are selfish, so it's natural for me to not understand how someone wouldn't stop and help, and I assumed that the guy was already dead. I never got it. Fear of blood? Fear of unknown? Lack of compassion? I don't get why people don't stop.

 

[Flipmo]

Most psychs call it the 'bystander effect' ... it's a transfusion of responsibilities to another until no one does anything at all. Usually, ambulance technicians are trained to order people around cause most of the time, nobody does anything, the walk by or just stare. I think a lack of compassion nowadays is included. People are to concerned with 'me, me and me' ...

I don't think he died right around, you can be stabbed and pass out, but still be alive. Even if the guy was dead, you stay with the body and call an ambulance. At least that makes sense, you can give your police statement and all, in hopes that at least what you had to say can do a difference. If you call someone and just walk away, you can't give them any information.

Bah, this shit always upsets me.

 

[Preach]

It's very unrealistic and hard for me to understand.

I come from a small community. Whenever someone die in my district (within a radius of say >120 miles) I hear about it. It's always some weird case as you don't have a lot of murderers and robbers in a population of 25,000 people. The last time a guy was murdered in my particular town it was a guy who owed a lot of money to some drug people, so they killed him and drove him outside of town and dumped him in a ditch. Pretty crazy for our little community, but the people got caught, they were obviously retards and it was a crime of passion probably. I have a friend who was a security guard at this pub and the guy driving the car was there once. He's fucking crazy and started threatening my friend because he wasn't allowed entry. He was complicit to the murder by admitting having driven the car with the body in, but had nothing to do with the actual killing, and got out pretty fast. I can run into him whenever. There's like 2-3 people like that here. One person attacked his own father with an axe (father was 60+, the person was 35+). He also walks free right now. Other than that we don't have any crazy people. There's a lot of fighting on the weekends but that's also natural for small communities.

Other than that I remember a few things. A guy getting stabbed in the back with a knife and having his lung punctured, a car full of teenagers drove by, stopped, and ended up staying there. The fact that they applied pressure to his wound was what saved him I think. They stayed with him and even went to the hospital. It wasn't a near friend but like I said, this is a small community, they knew who the person was.

There's often people who have been going on walks in the forest areas that hear screams and call 113 (our 911) and frantically search for where the screams are coming from. Recently, two 13 year old girls drowned cause they fell in the water. A person in the woods nearby tried to find them because their third friend who didn't fall in the water was screaming for help, but he got there too late and they couldn't find them. The girls were later found dead by a rescue team. Generally, whenever there's a report of someone dying, a bunch of people tried their best to save lives. Once I've driven past where a very very nasty car crash had happened. There were about 10 cars parked along the main road as well as people on foot who stopped. Traffic stopped as all the commotion didn't allow passage and you can't exactly run on the freeway with a bunch of cars behind you, so people would stop and walk along the line of cars to where the accident had happened, there was no rerouting of the, and everyone helped out it seemed.

This is where I come from so this just seems so unrealistic to me. I remember some teacher in school giving me some biased "story from America" about how if you try to do heart compression on someone that's not breathing and save them, someone once did that and got sued for breaking a rib, so generally in the states you should just leave people be as helping someone can bite you in the ass. Obviously a misconstrued and naive outlook on the American society and people, but I can't help but think that it is a phenomenon that takes place largely in very large populations. It doesn't happen in smaller communities.

 

[masta247]

The indifference of our society is terrifying. I can't picture this happening here though. Fortunately most people still are helpful but it's slowly going wrong way too.

 

[Da_Funk]

Where I live, there was a bum who was sick and waited for 36 hours in a hospital waiting room. The entire time other patients were going in and out constantly. After 36 hours he died and it took another 4 hours for the desk people to realise he'd died.


You know if he wasn't a bum he would've seen the doctor right away.

 

[_carmi]

Most psychs call it the 'bystander effect' ... it's a transfusion of responsibilities to another until no one does anything at all. Usually, ambulance technicians are trained to order people around cause most of the time, nobody does anything, the walk by or just stare. I think a lack of compassion nowadays is included. People are to concerned with 'me, me and me' ...

I don't think he died right around, you can be stabbed and pass out, but still be alive. Even if the guy was dead, you stay with the body and call an ambulance. At least that makes sense, you can give your police statement and all, in hopes that at least what you had to say can do a difference. If you call someone and just walk away, you can't give them any information.

Bah, this shit always upsets me.

yeah... honestly i dunno what i'd do given that i was in that situation. i'd probably walk away and pretend it never happened.

but if he wasn't a homeless man people would have called right away. a man in a suit wouldn't have been left to die on the corner of a street.

 

[masta247]

Even if the guy was dead, you stay with the body and call an ambulance. At least that makes sense, you can give your police statement and all, in hopes that at least what you had to say can do a difference. If you call someone and just walk away, you can't give them any information.

Maybe they're also scarred that someone will accuse them for murder and they'd rather have nothing to do with it. Oh and even police statements do take some time and will. It's more than most people would like to sacrifice.