Memberberries

Preach

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#1
I've been trying to get a grip on this for a while.

So it all started with last year's South Park season. That recurring theme with the Memberberries. The season before that which was the one where they introduced PC Principal, at least to me that season was like really good. Nailed a lot of things in typical South Park fashion. What can I say, I'm a fan. Anyway, last year's season wasn't that good. I remember hating the memberberries thing and not getting it, and kinda thinking all season how I'm sure it'll end up making sense in the end. Then it kinda didn't. But then way later I read some theory or whatever somewhere about how they probably assumed Trump wasn't gonna actually win, and so when he did they had to shift some story stuff around for everything to make sense, and that's why it turned out shitty.

I don't know, but anyway, the point is I spent a good amount of time trying to figure what that whole thing was about, beyond the obvious. Now though, I don't think it ever really had any deeper meaning beyond being social commentary about how we're living in a time where there's a lot of nostalgia being sold. So then I've been thinking a little bit about that and why that is. Like, I'm sure everyone hits a nostalgic phase a few times throughout their life, but that doesn't explain what's going on I don't think., Like over here we got television shows that used to air when I was a kid making their return to the waves after 20 year hiatuses.

I'm open to this all being nothing. Like maybe it's my perception and not the world that's different, or maybe random coincidences should have it that it would seem like the world is tripping when in fact it's just a few isolated incidents in succession.. I've tried to compensate for those ideas and it still feels like, no, there's something going on. There was another joke on South Park last year about how they got JJ Abrams to basically save us all by making a great Star Wars movie that would satiate our nostalgic needs. And then there's just.... Yeah, typical, I can't think of any more specific things other than those, but this definitely feels like an ongoing thing that is happening right now, in "the world" say. Oh wait, another thing is Trump's "make America great again".

Does this make sense to anyone? Anyone else feeling this? What do you make of it? Like, what do you think the thing is? Why is everyone so goddamn nostalgic right now, to the extent that it's part of every layer of western popular culture? The epochs just cycle and now is that time for our culture (again)? Or are we hitting some kind of ceiling with our technology, or our wealth, or as a culture, and then as we approach it, every process of development around us is slowing down incrementally, so as a culture we're kind of longing for something to even that out, and the answer is...whatever used to make us feel good when that was going on? Like a final act of clinging on until the last second? Or could it be that modern technology like the internet affects culture to change so rapidly that people are left with feelings of unease and insecurity, prompting them to watch the same old shit over and over again just to obtain that tiny sensation of control before having to face the chaos that surrounds us all *screams loudly* ?
 
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masta247

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#2
I think remakes of old things were always a thing. Except we grew up to be old enough that this is becoming a thing for us now. Our friends watch that stuff, we see it on the Facebook walls of people who mostly aren't teenagers anymore, and we chat about it at work with our peers.

At the same time, new music, movies, TV series are coming out daily that the new generations love but we can't relate to as well, but the world is moving forward. Take the top 10 Billboard charts for 2018. For instance, this is just entirely unrelatable for me, and these are college kids:

I just graduated college a few years ago but I find none of those songs to be good, I have never heard half of them, and none of my friends who are my age would like them. I just don't understand what they see in those songs at all. Yet they are really the most listened to songs of 2018.

At the same time, Call Me Maybe was a garbage song that none of the older folk respected when I was in college, but everyone from my college class knows the lyrics by heart. I know what these kids feel because I felt it with shitty pop music that came out when I was their age. Their garbage music just sounds like shit to me now, but I will gladly listen to Ja Rule's shittiest tracks and feel the guilty pleasure, despite it also being garbage. It was garbage of the times when I could still enjoy poor music and have fun listening to it, and hearing that music now makes me remind my brain of how it felt. Nelly's lyrics weren't any better than Cardi B's, yet I remember making out with the first chicks while bumping Dilemma and feeling like these are the greatest times everyone has ever had.

Personally, I love movies or music from my teenage years, and a lot of things that were popular then made sense to me, so I naturally enjoy remakes of that stuff. When I was a kid I spent a lot of time playing games with my friends, and despite those games not comparing favorably to modern games, they make me feel warm inside when I think of them now and I remember how amazing they felt back in the day.

I miss the feeling of playing, watching or listening to the old stuff. Even though I can recognize that a lot of it was shit, I still like it. That's also the case with my friends who are around my age. My grandpa surely feels the same about the music of his times - he even misses the war and says things were more awesome then in many ways, since he was a kid back then. I think that's natural.
 
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Jokerman

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#3
I’m not seeing that everyone is nostalgic all of a sudden. I’m just seeing Hollywood and television not having any new ideas and just remaking stuff or bringing stuff back at a greater pace than ever. Now there’s even plans to make a new Back to the Future. Stupid idea. I’m nostalgic for Roman times. Bring crucifixion back. Bring back the Arena.
 

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