New cars that interest you?

#1
Please try to keep this thread about cars that YOU can probably acquire and are what you're looking for. So if you're looking at a hybrid, talk about a hybrid. If you're looking for a 500 hp convertible, then talk about one. This isn't a dream car thread.




Originally I was considering a BMW 135i for my next purchase (depending on how finances go over the next year or so), but with information coming out about the upcoming Nissan 370Z, I'm leaning toward their direction. We're looking at something in the neighborhood of 350 hp, give or take, along with a car lighter than the 350Z it replaces, so it should be a pretty exciting vehicle.
 

C.R.Y.

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#2
im looking into getting into another hatch. i love my hondas, especially the efs. heres a pic of my old si. she was as mint as can be. my next one will look the same but will have spoon mirrors and a carbon fiber hood sitting on ls meshes



edit: i forgot the thread meant new. but i stick to older cars. obd1 ftw :D
 

Duke

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#3
The 370z does look very exciting. As far as NEW cars go that interest me that I can also afford:


...

Yeah, none. I get so jealous seeing price listings on American websites, man.

Oh and Deeez, aren't 1-series smaller than my left nostril? The hatch' back is definitely too small for anyone bigger than a midget to fit in there, maybe the 1-series-with-butt that they build for the US market is a bit better when it comes to cramming your buddies in the back, but, I dunno.

They're ugly too :|
 
#4
Oh and Deeez, aren't 1-series smaller than my left nostril? The hatch' back is definitely too small for anyone bigger than a midget to fit in there, maybe the 1-series-with-butt that they build for the US market is a bit better when it comes to cramming your buddies in the back, but, I dunno.

They're ugly too :|
The 1-Series is kind of small, but seeing how I'm looking at the 370Z also, the 1-Series MIGHT have the edge, though I won't know for sure until official specs of the 370Z are released. But if a backseat fits in the 1-Series (no matter how useless it might be in the real world), then I'd assume it might be a little roomier. Edmunds.com talked about how they put one of their 6' tall editors in the driver's seat with one of their 5'5" editors behind him, and it wasn't too bad, then they switched positions and still had the same opinions. I'm not tall, so interior room isn't a huge deal to me. Plus it's been pointed out that a lot of cars have been growing overall, so the current 1-Series is a couple inches shorter than the E36 3-Series coupe.

I'll just have to wait until magazines get their hands on a 370Z. The 135i and 335i both have the performance and have been walking over the more powerful 330 hp G37 with their more flexible engine, quicker acceleration and better fuel efficiency. That twin-turbo I-6 is a great motor, so I'd hope that the 370Z's engine has something intriguing to offer, though I'm sure its price will be reasonable seeing how the 135i that I built online ended up being over $40k :sad2:
 

Duke

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#5
Deeez, I love you and all, but since a bare (no option) 135i in this country costs 51000 euro's (which is 69000 dollars)...


SHUT THE FUCK UP. :) You don't know how good you have it over there as far as cars go, ehehe. A 350z costs a converted 73000 dollars here.

If you do want the 35i engine, please put it in a three series. The 1 is just....I dunno. Wrong. Somehow.
 
#6
I'm not crying about it being over $40k, I'm just saying that for that much money I could get something else. I could care less if it's a BMW, I honestly don't care much for massaging seats or steering wheel warmers. And it's not my fault that cars here cost less than overseas, but either way, $40k is nothing to sneeze at.

The main reason why I don't want a 335i is because it's more expensive than a similarly equipped 135i by a little less than $5k (approximately), plus everyone and their mother in Southern California has a 3-Series anyway. I wouldn't mind having a smaller car, though getting a Mini Cooper S would probably be a better choice when considering size and cost of ownership.
 

Da_Funk

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#8
shit i'll prolly never have a 40k car... i barely make 50k in two years. no way i'm spending 2 yrs salary on a car.
Do you plan on going back to school at all? You're still really young.


One day (5 to 6 years down the road hopefully) I'll probably be buying either an Audi S4 or BMW 3 series.
 

Duke

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#11
I'm not crying about it being over $40k, I'm just saying that for that much money I could get something else. I could care less if it's a BMW, I honestly don't care much for massaging seats or steering wheel warmers. And it's not my fault that cars here cost less than overseas, but either way, $40k is nothing to sneeze at.
I know, man, i was just ranting about the ridiculous high cost of cars here.


The main reason why I don't want a 335i is because it's more expensive than a similarly equipped 135i by a little less than $5k (approximately), plus everyone and their mother in Southern California has a 3-Series anyway. I wouldn't mind having a smaller car, though getting a Mini Cooper S would probably be a better choice when considering size and cost of ownership.

Screw BMW then, since you'll always pay more for the badge.

About a Mini Cooper, I obviously can't read your mind regarding your exact wishes in a car, but I think you may feel "slow" since you're now hurtling around in your EVO. The performance gap is very significant.
Maybe the running costs of an EVO also make you think about a smaller car?

Not knowing what exactly your demands are for a car, but if they're low as far as transporting multiple people/lotsa stuff go, have you considered Elises? Especially the higher-end versions are quite quick in a straight line and obviously immense everywhere else. Plus you'll have something pretty special.
 
#12
Screw BMW then, since you'll always pay more for the badge.
I completely understand the premium for a badge and would be willing to pay for it, depending on the price along with what I get for the money. It's not a crucial thing to me but I wouldn't mind having it, but I wouldn't really want to pay anything over $40k for a 135i or 335i, though I think a car like the M3 is definitely worth the money, but it's quite out of my feasible price range at least for the next several years. But along with the premium for the badge comes with the excellent customer service and treatment at their dealerships along with the free maintenance for up to 50k miles (in the U.S.). Your average non-luxury Japanese car will require some explanation (and perhaps arguing) with the service department if something is wrong, while if you take a BMW or Mercedes to the dealership while the car is in warranty, they will take care of you without question while giving you a loaner.

About a Mini Cooper, I obviously can't read your mind regarding your exact wishes in a car, but I think you may feel "slow" since you're now hurtling around in your EVO. The performance gap is very significant.
Maybe the running costs of an EVO also make you think about a smaller car?
I know that a car like a Cooper S will be slow in comparison, but I'm not trying to find a faster car. I just want something a smaller (the Evo isn't big but it's a lot larger than anything I need for 95% of my driving needs), more fuel efficient (the Evo averages 22-23 mpg and has peaked at 26.73 mpg in my possession) yet still fun to drive through the straights and around the bends as a commuter car. I don't NEED a second car, but I'm entertaining the idea. The running costs for an Evo are still a little steep compared to normal, and despite my vehicle purchase including free oil changes for life, the other maintenances are still higher than average. For example, last Friday, I had the 15k mile service, which involved the transaxle and differential fluids being changed... $200 (though it's normally $400 but I have some hookups). That's just to change some fluids, so imagine how much it's going to suck when the 30k or 60k service comes around, or when I need to change the pads (though I'll probably do that myself).
Not knowing what exactly your demands are for a car, but if they're low as far as transporting multiple people/lotsa stuff go, have you considered Elises? Especially the higher-end versions are quite quick in a straight line and obviously immense everywhere else. Plus you'll have something pretty special.
Elises are awesome, but I'd still like something practical enough to the point where I can make an impulse buy and not have to worry about having driven the wrong car. Plus let's not forget the fact that they start at just above $46k. Plus the whole point of buying an Elise is to fling it around tracks since it's so agile, but for something so impractical, I wouldn't be getting my money's worth for the premium I'm paying for a completely impractical car that I can't even fit $80 worth of groceries inside of. But that aside, while the car is quick, since its release I was always a little disappointed that it got the engine from the Celica GT-S. At the time, it was already a little old (but still good), though I was hoping it would've gotten the torquier, more exiting K20A motor from the RSX Type-S. The more interesting thing was that Lotus was originally testing the Elise chassis with the 220 hp Type-R variant of the K20, and that test mule was staying ahead of a 911 Turbo (996) around their test track, but it ended up not getting that engine because it had not been certified in the U.S., so Lotus went with the Toyota motor and reprogrammed it to get 190 hp.
 

Duke

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#13
True, Elises are expensive, I forgot about that.

I thought you were looking to replace your Evo, but you're toying with the notion of a second car. That changes perspectives.

How about an old cool car? :) A Sprinter Trueno or FC or something. Fix it up good.
 
#14
How about an old cool car? :) A Sprinter Trueno or FC or something. Fix it up good.
I don't mind working on cars... however, fixing and repairing them isn't something I want to do, so I'd like to stick to something newer that will be a little bit more durable and in need of less work to run reliably.

Earlier this month, I had a crazy idea of picking up a used Evo RS (either VIII or IX) and making it sportier, which definitely would've been fun, but it would've been a tiny bit redundant and impractical at this point in my life, plus insuring TWO Evos isn't cheap. At least picking a car with a lower insurance rating (which describes over 95% of all cars to be honest) and listing it as a primary car would be far more cost effective.
 

Duke

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#15
I understand. Hard choices, man.

Type R's?
Old good condition BMW?
Clio V6! Euro-chic and a total maniac. Totally impractical too.
Escort Cosworth?, should they be available.
Any modern day "hot hatch"? GTI's, OPC Astra etc?
If you want pure driving pleasure and don't mind a few stereotypes, MX-5 and tune it?

I will return when I have more inspirational ideas :)
 
#16
Type R's? - All we ever had was the Integra Type-R, and realistically speaking will mostly have over 80k miles at this point in time, plus they have high theft rates and are still rated high by insurance companies.
Old good condition BMW? - Not if it's older than a couple years or if it doesn't have an extended warranty. When not properly taken care of, BMWs can fall apart and have costly problems.
Clio V6! Euro-chic and a total maniac. Totally impractical too.
Escort Cosworth?, should they be available. - Not sold in the U.S., and I really wouldn't want one of these anyway.
Any modern day "hot hatch"? GTI's, OPC Astra etc? - Actually a GTI wouldn't be a bad suggestion. I would've bought a GTI instead to begin with, but the four-door GTIs weren't yet available in the U.S. when I bought my first Evo.
If you want pure driving pleasure and don't mind a few stereotypes, MX-5 and tune it? - An MX-5 would actually be pretty fun, but for the size and price I'd rather just get a Cooper.
 

Duke

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#17
I would imagine the Cooper S with it's BMW DNA to be much more expensive than an MX-5. How do they compare?

Do you get Alfa Romeo's in the US?
 
#18
Coopers are probably a tad more expensive than MX-5s. But what I was saying was that for what you pay for an MX-5, I'd rather just pay a little more and get a Cooper. I don't really care much for a convertible, despite the very sporty nature of the MX-5.

No Alfas here at the moment, though they're going to be sold here again in the next few years.
 

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