Pac material left in the vaults

[cookiesoda]

Call it a hunch but I think it's exhausted.

This is why Pac's Life was full of guest appearances, remixes and tracks we'd all heard before. Also, Death Row aint released anything unheard for a while and claimed that Better Dayz was the final album of Makaveli material.

I think people have over embellished how much material he recorded whilst alive to fortify his legacy. Don't get me wrong, I think he did much more than your average but to say he's got hundreds of joints yet to be unreleased is far from the truth.

 

[KO]

I've been saying the same thing for a while now...


at the end of the day, if they had a lot of material, you wouldnt hear verses from old albums being mixed into new singles...

 

[cookies]

mayyn not this shit again.

cookiesoda your post is misleading. much material is left FACT.

what is deathrow to release? bet to my knowledge they have no power of what pac material is released.

Reason to why Pac's life had many guest appearances, remixes and tracks that "we'd all heard before" could be due to the following reasons:
1 they felt peeps would by it no matter how many remixes were made (hence, more material for later use)
2 these songs/acapellas had already been leaked on the net, well most of them. so they may have felt the urge to get rid of em and release em officialy
3 not everyone has heard these songs (above 90%)

see the majority of us know that there is substantial amount of material left. but then the few wanna fight the fact with pac's life aas its case. i mean look at l2tg how many unheards did that have. look at how they released a completely unheard track over in japan.

 

[KO]

cookiesoda your post is misleading. much material is left FACT.

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Listen right, I can't be bothered with no 400 page argument like the last thread, your a good member, I respect your opinion.


However, you should not class things as "FACT" if they are not...we had this in the other thread, you do not know for a FACT how many Pac songs are left, none of us know....so there is nothing factual about it at all, its all opinions and guesses really.

 

[Rahim]

There's lots of material left. But Pac's Life is a tribute album, and from that, you can find several reasons to why they used the songs they did and the way they used them.

 

[cookiesoda]

mayyn not this shit again.

cookiesoda your post is misleading. much material is left FACT.

what is deathrow to release? bet to my knowledge they have no power of what pac material is released.

Reason to why Pac's life had many guest appearances, remixes and tracks that "we'd all heard before" could be due to the following reasons:
1 they felt peeps would by it no matter how many remixes were made (hence, more material for later use)
2 these songs/acapellas had already been leaked on the net, well most of them. so they may have felt the urge to get rid of em and release em officialy
3 not everyone has heard these songs (above 90%)

see the majority of us know that there is substantial amount of material left. but then the few wanna fight the fact with pac's life aas its case. i mean look at l2tg how many unheards did that have. look at how they released a completely unheard track over in japan.

It’s exceedingly mind boggling to hear you consistently allude to your opinion as fact. You have no substantial evidence to back up your assertions other than similarly fruitless statements made by those in the industry whom purport to have inside knowledge (equally unsubstantiated)

1. This is largely an irrelevant point. it’s a well known fact that regular albums outsell remix albums.

2. Why would they feel the need to “get rid” of them? In an industry plagued by illegal downloads at a detriment to conventional sales, common sense indicates that any unheard material they put out would sell better than tracks already in the public domain.

3. Are you able to verify that 90%? Even so, the point is that even if they haven’t heard those joints it isn’t because they don’t know where to find them. If Jay Z dropped Kingdom Come with tracks that had been knocking around the internet for the last ten years, do you think it would have done 700,000+ in the first week? Get real dude.

2Pac is probably the most marketable deceased rapper and they dropped what can only be labelled as remixes and already heard verses laced with an excess of guest appearances.

They are scraping the bottom of the barrel.

 

[Bombsquad]

Lol, I thought cookies & cookiesoda were the same person. :laugh:

In the last thread, I told KO and others that Afeni said that 2Pac definitely had tons of material to release and that Pac's Life wasn't his last album. If the Freetupac portion of the board wasn't down, I would've posted that article and proved it to you. If you all waited until the year 2017 to make this argument, then I would probably agree, but I'm taking into consideration that some of you are streethop members and may not necessarily be educated on Pac, so I'll leave it at that.

 

[masta247]

Listen right, I can't be bothered with no 400 page argument like the last thread, your a good member, I respect your opinion.


However, you should not class things as "FACT" if they are not...we had this in the other thread, you do not know for a FACT how many Pac songs are left, none of us know....so there is nothing factual about it at all, its all opinions and guesses really.

It's a FACT that there are many unreleased songs that we have, have clips of, have lyrics, or heard from a trustworty sources about them (Dante, 2pac books etc.). So don't start it again... If they'd put out only the songs most of us know about without any surprises they would make AT LAST 3-4 albums. There are of course songs that Amaru from unnown reasons tend to "throw out" from Pac's albums and that would be the worst situation when they won't even release a bunch of songs they have. And I think that's the only way to stop releasing Pac's albums for Amaru.

 

[KO]

you guys need to look up what the word "FACT" actually means...once again, in the previous post, someone is using the word "FACT" based on OPINIONS of how many songs are left by other board members...


guys seriously, look up the word FACT...

 

[KO]

I'm taking into consideration that some of you are streethop members and may not necessarily be educated on Pac, so I'll leave it at that.

And your talking like a board veteran when you have been here a year and a half???


I have been around here since the first message board crashed and we lost everything back in 2000...and your speaking like your a veteran, you have no idea of a true Pacboard veteran.

 

[Avalanche]

it's sad you call yourself a veteran of an online message community lol.

 

[DeeezNuuuts83]

I'm not going to say that there are tons of songs left, but there is definitely enough material, leaked or unheard, to make at least a few more albums. Do your homework. Think of all the leaked songs that still haven't been put on commercial releases (Komradez, 4 My Niggaz, etc.), all of the One Nation tracks (Brothas at Arms, My Own Style, Thug Nigga/Throw Up Your Guns, etc.), the songs from Makaveli & Dillinger (First 2 Bomb), the songs recorded for Tyson (Road to Glory, Let's Get It On), the confirmed unleaked songs, and the rumored songs. There is plenty of material left.

Yes, Pac's Life contained songs that we all had with virtually no new unleaked songs, but that doesn't mean that Amaru Records should never release them just because we've all heard them, thanks to bootleggers and leakers. But that doesn't mean that there aren't any new songs left.

 

[cookies]

However, you should not class things as "FACT" if they are not...we had this in the other thread, you do not know for a FACT how many Pac songs are left, none of us know....so there is nothing factual about it at all, its all opinions and guesses really.

sorry, what about "highly likely" based on numerous sources.

It’s exceedingly mind boggling to hear you consistently allude to your opinion as fact. You have no substantial evidence to back up your assertions other than similarly fruitless statements made by those in the industry whom purport to have inside knowledge (equally unsubstantiated)

"This is why Pac's Life was full of guest appearances, remixes and tracks we'd all heard before"
"They are scraping the bottom of the barrel."
"even if they haven’t heard those joints it isn’t because they don’t know where to find them"
:thumb:

If Jay Z dropped Kingdom Come with tracks that had been knocking around the internet for the last ten years, do you think it would have done 700,000+ in the first week? Get real dude.

where the fuck this come form???

the post below me pretty much sums it all up.

 

[ianyo2006]

being a die hard fan since only '96 i can tell u....... 2pac has been my hobby, because he never stops producing. i remember reading the list of unheards since back then, and every year i need to cross shit of the list. everyear i need to add shit that wasnt even on the list so.......if i count the songs that are left on the list its around one hundred tracks. some are songs we aint heard, and some are wrong titles. some must not even be on the list so, my ballpark guess is that there must be around one hundred songs or more left. just find the list urself and cross em' off as u go!

 

[Think_ThuGLiFE]

according to certain respected people with connects.. there is material to last to our 40s if handled properly..

 

[cookiesoda]

"This is why Pac's Life was full of guest appearances, remixes and tracks we'd all heard before"
"They are scraping the bottom of the barrel."
"even if they haven’t heard those joints it isn’t because they don’t know where to find them".

Its my opinion with reasons to substantiate my opinion versus your opinion with no reasons which you label as fact. Dumb fuck.

where the fuck this come form???
the post below me pretty much sums it all up.

You don't mention any of my points because you know that they are credible. Also, if you think Hit em up 2 would or should ever be encompassed within a future Pac release your dumber than I first gave you credit for.

 

[DeeezNuuuts83]

EDIT: sorry, I misread a post I was replying to.

 

[cookies]

Its my opinion with reasons to substantiate my opinion versus your opinion with no reasons which you label as fact. Dumb fuck.



You don't mention any of my points because you know that they are credible. Also, if you think Hit em up 2 would or should ever be encompassed within a future Pac release your dumber than I first gave you credit for.

hmm r u stupid? its clear what i pointed out was u making statements which effectively were facts. ur tryin too hard and u aint outsmartin no one.

what points?? u only referred to half my points, what about the rest is it "because you know that they are credible"?

"Hit em up 2" lmmao u ar dumber than most of us

 

[masta247]

There was a lot of threads like this where people made lists of leaked songs that weren't released and confirmed unleaked ones. I could even say that with every year we get more confirmed songs (fe. that 2pac book this year with song titles written by Pac, Dvds, leaks, clips etc. without mentioning interviews, Dante's stories) than they release. It's a nonesense if someone claims that everything has been used or that it was a last album (like I said before, unless they won't hide a bunch of his tracks and won't ever use them and unless rappers and producers won't keep they're songs with Pac to themselves)

 

[Devious]

well some songs will most likely never see official release, unless Afeni and Amaru back down on their initial claim that they won't be releasing any more diss records. so songs like 4 My Niggaz and First 2 Bomb will almost assuredly never see an official release. and there are songs we don't even know about that will never see a release simply cuz Amaru doesn't own the masters. however i think it's pretty well known that there is still quite a bit of material left to be heard, the question is will we ever get to hear it?