reg.: Anton Batey's wrong dismissal attempts on R.Bond's ASSASSINATION

[Yaki]

this guy Anton seems to be obsessed with defending Death Row. The biggest bullshit argument of his is: he claims that Richard Bond claims the murder would have been set up 5 months prior // that the Lakewood Incident was already part of the later set up! BULLSHIT! Bond never states that. More logic it is, that Death Row USED the Lakewood incident in retrospect to offer Orlando Anderson money for showing up at the MGM to get beaten up. That way Anderson was supposed to be forgiven his chain-snatch move (otherwise DR would have been able to kill him if they want). I think it may be true that Anderson agreed on attending the MGM for Death Row without having a clue that on that same night Pac's entourage was unarmed, and that everything else was also planned by Wright.
Anton completely dismisses information like that for the first time ever the bodyguards have been told to leave their weapons! Anton doesnt even mantion that once! All he does is looking at some points he believed to be "weak" arguments...and once and for all, dammit, EVERYBODY knows Pac wanted to leave Death Row. EVERYBODY knows Pac had noticed the financial irregularities over his contract, that he doesnt get paid, everybody knows that Pac got hella upset at Knight and Wright for having no cash income (but rather he always had to go ask Suge for whatever he needed (cars, house etc). everybody knows that Pac got fed up with Death Row. everybody knows that Pac warned the Outlawz never to sign with Death Row (Outlawz confirmed that). And Anton, everybody knows Pac never wanted to join DR in the first place, he knew and SAID himself he is "selling his sould to teh devil" when hey signed the Death Row contract in prison. But yea, Anton just ignores that.
Pac worked his ass off just to get these three albums done to be allowed to leave this dubious label. Pac was 10 times too smart than to not realize that he should not mess with DR, and thats why he wanted to leave as soon as possible.
But ye, Anton, comes up dismissing the entire 2Pac-Assassination DVD and claiming Pac glorified Death Row when in fact all this gloryfying was just fake and forced. YES he did say in April 1996 he would see himself in 5 years still working for Death Row, but until then HE HAD NOT had a clue yet about the financial wrongs doen to him by DR AND why should he publicly (in interviews) dismiss DR and diss DR when Suge would watch? Do you think Pa was so stupid, Anton. Man, u made me so pissed with your baseless Dissmiss-Attempts of Bond's valuable research. I think u r just ignorant to the truth, man. Pac knew he was a dead man walking when he entered the airport in NY to go to Vegas, man...he knew DR would get him. Thats why he worried about the irrittating confusing bodyguard rotation.

 

[khamla]

Maybe your theories are bullshit. Suge didn't have Pac killed, Biggie maybe, but not Pac. Suge is no saint, but he didn't put the hit on Pac. If you think so i'm sorry but i'd rather believe Pac is still alive than to think Suge killed him. Anton makes good points, the DVD is crap!

 

[Yaki]

nobody can deny that Reggie Wright had his own plan for the entire Vegas weekend, with all the sudden irregularities. HOW CAN U IGNORE facts like the disarmement of the bodyguards and all that? the DVD Assassination is maybe far from omniscient, but it definitely clears up lots of rumours, AND it delivers more truth than the rebuttal by Anton.

 

[khamla]

So do you think Suge and company killed Tupac? Whats your stance, if you believe so...i dont need to waiste my time arguing with you.

 

[Yaki]

even if Orlando Anderson was the shooter, this doesnt change the fact that Reggie and Death Row fucked Pac over. They may have got him one week later, or two weeks later. with a nother assassination plan. you do what u want, but for me, I turn my back on Death Row officially, not music wise but as a company who didnt protect the greatest multi talent of America of the 90s from getting killed and even contributed to kill him

 

[EDouble]

This Assassination Shit Although I Havent Seen It Sounds Like Just A Bunch Of Bull Shit That's Been Said Already The Last 11+ Years W/ Addition Of A Scheme Retold By A Guy That Cant Get His Stories Straight & I Think Was A Fed Hackie

 

[Euphanasia]

Anton's dismissal of Tupac Assassination is correct. You're right that Tupac was upset about money issues, among other things, at Death Row Records. No one artist is perfectly happy with everything going on at their label; this does not mean 'Pac wanted to leave Death Row. Like Anton mentions, Tupac is talking about Death Row East on September 4th - 3 days before he's shot in Vegas. Tupac did not want to leave Death Row. Also, Suge Knight/Death Row had nothing to do with 'Pac's murder. They served to benefit from him much more alive than dead. Orlando killed 'Pac and he did it on his own accord.

 

[DammiT]

nah, nah, nah, I can't agree with what he stated. I know u can't 100% believe what Kevin H. said, seemed to B a snitch.

But who is Anton Batey ? A friend of Wright or what ?

I mean even ppl like Gobi (good friend of pac & had followed pac almost everywhere months B4 his death & shot like 10 hours of pure pac footage in order to make a movie on pac's life) said in a 2003 interview there was no doubt pac wanted to leave DR; he was keeping aloof with 'em, mostly on last days.

And now I won't believe what this guy or Reggie said; Tupac loved K.Hackie and neva liked F.Alexander ??? C'mon y'all, I mean lol, I'd rather believe ppl like Outlawz, Yaasmyn, Gobi who were like family for pac than A.Batey(???), or Wright or Suge who seemed hiding somethang fo'sho'.

Did U guys checked the documents posted a few days ?
So imagine U a rapper, U make a label rich, & one day, as ur contract is finished, U want more liberty, U wanted the last tapes U make (if ur contract is finished, why not then?), and then, U discovered that they not gonna give U a damn thang & they obviously played U (check the papers posted) ?

What would B ur reaction? Leaving ?

Suge & Reggie keep on putting so much will 2 say that pac neva got any sorta problem with the label that it begins to become suspicious (at least 4 me).

and don't tell me about the 'DR east interview', pac was so much under pressure back in those days, that he maybe did not wanna C it...& 3days ago, it could B all good, then the next day or the day B4 he died, something could had happen (U know what personnality tupac got?)...

Think about it

 

[DammiT]

Funny How Ppl Rather Believe Wright Or Suge Or An Unknown Like Batey Than Pac's Family!!!!

So U With Tupac On Almost Evry Word He Said But U Won't Believe What His Own 'family' Would Said ?

I Don't Understand U

 

[Yaki]

finally!

nah, nah, nah, I can't agree with what he stated. I know u can't 100% believe what Kevin H. said, seemed to B a snitch.

But who is Anton Batey ? A friend of Wright or what ?

I mean even ppl like Gobi (good friend of pac & had followed pac almost everywhere months B4 his death & shot like 10 hours of pure pac footage in order to make a movie on pac's life) said in a 2003 interview there was no doubt pac wanted to leave DR; he was keeping aloof with 'em, mostly on last days.

And now I won't believe what this guy or Reggie said; Tupac loved K.Hackie and neva liked F.Alexander ??? C'mon y'all, I mean lol, I'd rather believe ppl like Outlawz, Yaasmyn, Gobi who were like family for pac than A.Batey(???), or Wright or Suge who seemed hiding somethang fo'sho'.

Did U guys checked the documents posted a few days ?
So imagine U a rapper, U make a label rich, & one day, as ur contract is finished, U want more liberty, U wanted the last tapes U make (if ur contract is finished, why not then?), and then, U discovered that they not gonna give U a damn thang & they obviously played U (check the papers posted) ?

What would B ur reaction? Leaving ?

Suge & Reggie keep on putting so much will 2 say that pac neva got any sorta problem with the label that it begins to become suspicious (at least 4 me).

and don't tell me about the 'DR east interview', pac was so much under pressure back in those days, that he maybe did not wanna C it...& 3days ago, it could B all good, then the next day or the day B4 he died, something could had happen (U know what personnality tupac got?)...

Think about it

finally sumone with brain! 'Dammit', I agree with you fully. Seems like we cant change these other ppl's opinion. I admit I used to be blind just like them when I used to defend Death Row, not acknowledgin how much pressure was on Pac when he praised DR, even on Sep 4th.

 

[EDouble]

Some Close To Pac" Like Mentioned Before Have Said Pac Didn't Want To Leave Death Row (Just As Some Have Said He Did), & Some Of Pac's Family Have Said His & Suges Relationship Was Alright (Some Have Said It Wasnt I Believe). Either Way W/ 'leaving D.r. Why Is That Supposed Be Tell Tale Sign They Killed Him Lmao? I Don't Get This Shit

September 4th There Is No Question Pac Was As Passionate With Death Row East" As Anything Before. No Question.

The Only Thing I Don't Know The Facts On Is The Story Of The Tapes/firing Kenner, Wanted To Leave Etc And I Can't Remember When That Was Supposed To Happen & W/ What Kadafi's Mother Said But I Think It Was Said That Was Before September In August, If It Was & Story Was True Then I Don't Get The Death Row East & W/ Suge Etc Etc And I Figure Not Wearing His D.r. Chain Around The Same Time

Nothing Is To Say There Werent Money Problems There & Suge Owed Pac Money Pac Owed Them Money & It All Thru Whatever Means But I Don't See How This All Is Supposed To Direct To His Murder In Las Vegas While Suge Is Inches Away

 

[EDouble]

I Just Wanted To Add That I Believe Life Is Hotter Than Our Block Now

 

[DammiT]

finally sumone with brain! 'Dammit', I agree with you fully. Seems like we cant change these other ppl's opinion. I admit I used to be blind just like them when I used to defend Death Row, not acknowledgin how much pressure was on Pac when he praised DR, even on Sep 4th.

See? that's what 90% of ppl who think about this seemed to forget : Pac was a dude who was almost constantly under pressure.

Pac wanted to start his own thang, distributed by DR, but when it became obviously clear that those assholes (who won a lot on pac's back!) won't agree with him, he became upset.

So 3 days B4, he talked about DR east, & after he could have B upset as hell.
Better leave 'em (after all disses & shit they did together) in good terms than make those disagreements B known public, know what I'm sayin' ?

They were down together, jumped in beef with others, were on top of the world, & what u think he should have do?
Going publicaly telling 'hey, those dudes who I hang with R stolen me'? not tupac
Many ppl would have jump on those disagreements to diss him = more troubles for him.

 

[EDouble]

If People Want To Go So Far, & Claim Suge/anyone Death Row Pulled The Shooting, They Couldnt Claim The Whole Orlando Shit Was Staged (which Is Non Fuckin Logical For A # Of Reasons Anyway) Because That Is Exactly What Sent Suge To Prison For Multiple Years & That Which Further Ended Death Rows Power

 

[DammiT]

^^it's forgotten the reason why Travon came directly whispering in pac's ear...'Pac had nothing to do with this story

What he said in his ear was what make tupac ran on Orlando, it's not like it was pac's own decision.
Tupac went in fight with Orlando in reaction to what he heard...

...& Travon is actually one of Suge's near relation...I don't believe 'em

Again BS

 

[EDouble]

Death Row Was Not Unfamiliar W/ Fights. Death Row Was Not Unfamiliar W/ Gang Banging. Tupac Was Death Row. Tupac Was Friends W/ Travon, Who Even Was Of A Few He Shouted Out In To Live & Die In L.a.
The Whole Thing Stemming From The Foot Locker Incident As The Theory Goes, Pac Reacted Like Pac In Defense. Or If You Decide Believe It Acting As A Banger


That's Just One Way Its Looked At. I Don't Know What Youre Assuming Had To Have Been Said For Him To Run Up To Orlando Or Him Being Near Relation To Suge Is Worth Anything As It Was A Whole Crew In Vegas That Night For The Fight & 662

 

[DammiT]

yee yee yee... like I said, some rather believe what Suge or Reggie said than believe what ppl who were nearest to pac.

So, let's say ur right.
Now, as we can all almost figure the motives of some DR ppl to see pac dead, I just want u to tell me what will B the motives of pac's family to lie about some of those facts.

So? any reason why they would suddenly lying about same ppl?

 

[EDouble]

I Caught This Assassination @ Target For Like $12 The Other Day I Didnt Have Time To Look Over It /buy The Shit Though But Might Go Back If Some One Can Tell Me There're New Details In It