Vicious Telekinesis

[Bender]

It hit me today in the face, I think it was one of Tupac's greatest hits, it caught me in my all eyez on me. There's no more pain.

Anyways the question hit me why Tupac raps about telekinesis. I personally think it is something that he has picked up from reading books, bear in mind Tupac read a lot of books and injected that into his raps. But really ... Telekinesis, why? Is it some kind of poetical metaphor ...

Drop your thoughts

 

[HipHop77]

telekinesis is moving something with your mind, now for eg. in no more pain he goes, "this alcohol increases the change to be deceased im moving you stupid bitches this is telekinesis" hes using telekinesis on the people who drink alcohol and don't have a clue on what it does to their body. hes implying that he can use truth or "Game" to move people without being near them. by move i mean change, or cause them to contemplate and think, or lyrically murder.

kurupt even uses it, he goes "im breaking thru, put on ur teflon barriers and get penetrates telekinetics superior" its all methaphorically. like, hiide all you want ill reveal your fake ass with my lyrics etc, deny all u want, put up your "barriers" but my telekinesis is superior.\

"Mr. Makaveli movin' pieces like telekinesis
It's like a chess game lets play with real pieces"

i love when he uses that word

 

[Bender]

telekinesis is moving something with your mind, now for eg. in no more pain he goes, "this alcohol increases the change to be deceased im moving you stupid bitches this is telekinesis" hes using telekinesis on the people who drink alcohol and don't have a clue on what it does to their body. hes implying that he can use truth or "Game" to move people without being near them. by move i mean change, or cause them to contemplate and think, or lyrically murder.

kurupt even uses it, he goes "im breaking thru, put on ur teflon barriers and get penetrates telekinetics superior" its all methaphorically. like, hiide all you want ill reveal your fake ass with my lyrics etc, deny all u want, put up your "barriers" but my telekinesis is superior.\

"Mr. Makaveli movin' pieces like telekinesis
It's like a chess game lets play with real pieces"

i love when he uses that word

I have to correct you, it is:

"This alcohol increases the chance to be deceased, I'm moving you stupid bitches, vicious telekinesis."


Post read, lesson learned. Good insight.

 

[Rahim]

^^ i always thought "This is telekinesis" too

but on topic...ive noticed pac got his song titles from movies...like the movie "War Games" and "To Live & Die in L.A."...Pacs lyrical content comes from movies and media influences of all sort.....but i think pac rapping about telekineses was used as a war strategy...pac felt powerful....thats the feeling i get too when i hear his music...and he gave off that power to ppl with his music...thats the effect he had on people...i could just imagine how jay-z or diddy feel everytime they hear 2PAC. hes the best rapper in everyway...i can just imagine.......how when people hear pac..or a big rapper hears pac...they just feel like like they can never be better..or try to be better then 2pac....pac had the power with his music...and right there..he was moving something with his mind..he was moving the ppl with his mind using music.....thats what telekinesis is to me...

he was moving ppl...maybe not physically but mentally, emotionally and spiritually with his music

 

[yak pac fatal]

^^ i always thought "This is telekinesis" too

but on topic...ive noticed pac got his song titles from movies...like the movie "War Games" and "To Live & Die in L.A."...Pacs lyrical content comes from movies and media influences of all sort.....but i think pac rapping about telekineses was used as a war strategy...pac felt powerful....thats the feeling i get too when i hear his music...and he gave off that power to ppl with his music...thats the effect he had on people...i could just imagine how jay-z or diddy feel everytime they hear 2PAC. hes the best rapper in everyway...i can just imagine.......how when people hear pac..or a big rapper hears pac...they just feel like like they can never be better..or try to be better then 2pac....pac had the power with his music...and right there..he was moving something with his mind..he was moving the ppl with his mind using music.....thats what telekinesis is to me...

he was moving ppl...maybe not physically but mentally, emotionally and spiritually with his music

me too i always heard it as This is telekinesis, plus it makes sense like that

 

[S O F I]

telekinesis is moving something with your mind, now for eg. in no more pain he goes, "this alcohol increases the change to be deceased im moving you stupid bitches this is telekinesis" hes using telekinesis on the people who drink alcohol and don't have a clue on what it does to their body.

I never saw it that way. Mainly, because he says "THIS Alcohol". "This" implies he's talking about his own, to me. The way I interpreted it was basically him acknowledging that when he consumes liquor, it makes him do things that have serious repercussions, whether that be drunk driving, or getting drunk and stomping out Orlando.

Now, about telekinesis, I agree that he was talking about moving people or being able to control people any way he wanted.

 

[Bender]

Anyone ever noticed how Pac (on No More Pain) pauses slightly between the syllables of astral: "lets go inside my as-tral plane" - like he is being facetious.

 

[Bender]

"this alcohol increases the change to be deceased im moving you stupid bitches this is telekinesis"

Take one.

^^ i always thought "This is telekinesis" too

he was moving ppl...maybe not physically but mentally, emotionally and spiritually with his music

Take two.

This makes sense. Like Tupac knew how what he spoke affected people.

me too i always heard it as This is telekinesis ...

Take three. I am schooling you guys

Now, about telekinesis, I agree that he was talking about moving people or being able to control people any way he wanted.

The concept of being able to control people sounds absurd. Pac had a lot of things behind him, supporting him, that influenced his interactions with other people. So, just the fact that Tupac was talented, his Panther ties, Death Row ties, and the fact that he was successful, had money, and was on the big screen and in the media, is already a controlling factor to those who he came into contact with. On a personal note it is like Pac knew who he was and what he was saying affected the people who he came into contact with. Like Rahim said, Tupac was able to move people in different ways. Telekinesis here sounds better in the context of influence and motivation, rather than that of control. I think Tupac as a person was too reckless to be confined to the constraints of control.




I also think telekinesis is a clever pun used by 2Pac referring to media control. Let me break this down for you so you can understand my perspective: 'Tele' is a word common here in the UK to refer to Television, one of the biggest form of media. 'Kinesis' is a word that implies control through a stimulus, the stimulus here being television. Tele-kinesis.

kinesis - Definitions from Dictionary.com

Tupac could also be referring to his own influence through the television, like music videos, films/movies, and news.

I have a degree of understanding on Tupac's nuances in his lyrics.


Edit: If you don't know already, Tupac read a book called: Telepathy And The Etheric Vehicle, by Alice Bailey & Djwhal Khul. I have this book and have read it.

 

[HipHop77]

"front and play yourself, then your bound to get killed quick, death will come to those who shift, get lit, stupid bitch, stop ridin dick, suckaz cant last in my midst, change your ways, cuz they crazed, i rip fakes apart with my telekinetic bladesss/

bustas jelly jelly, without knowlege of self , they reckless, get their heart pumpin and leave breathless, dont go agaisnt this is u crazy? maybe lazy cut u hatin on the ones with money and ladies, creepin like shady, cant fade me cuz im above that level i learn from and respect the onez with cash, try to drive up current and you get that ass MASHED, and your opinion, it dont mean shit if it aint felt, so if u aint talking from that heart dont even let ya lips start, froze them marks cuz im more smart, fuck being hard ill slice em up and leave em on the floor lookin shocked, egos egos come into play if ya aint shook then you puttin up a barrier, deep inside u
know cuz telekinetics superior

 

[HipHop77]

Take one.



Take two.

This makes sense. Like Tupac knew how what he spoke affected people.



Take three. I am schooling you guys



The concept of being able to control people sounds absurd. Pac had a lot of things behind him, supporting him, that influenced his interactions with other people. So, just the fact that Tupac was talented, his Panther ties, Death Row ties, and the fact that he was successful, had money, and was on the big screen and in the media, is already a controlling factor to those who he came into contact with. On a personal note it is like Pac knew who he was and what he was saying affected the people who he came into contact with. Like Rahim said, Tupac was able to move people in different ways. Telekinesis here sounds better in the context of influence and motivation, rather than that of control. I think Tupac as a person was too reckless to be confined to the constraints of control.




I also think telekinesis is a clever pun used by 2Pac referring to media control. Let me break this down for you so you can understand my perspective: 'Tele' is a word common here in the UK to refer to Television, one of the biggest form of media. 'Kinesis' is a word that implies control through a stimulus, the stimulus here being television. Tele-kinesis.

kinesis - Definitions from Dictionary.com

Tupac could also be referring to his own influence through the television, like music videos, films/movies, and news.

I have a degree of understanding on Tupac's nuances in his lyrics.


Edit: If you don't know already, Tupac read a book called: Telepathy And The Etheric Vehicle, by Alice Bailey & Djwhal Khul. I have this book and have read it.

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tha the def of telekinesis
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[Bender]

^ NO, man. I am not talking about definition, I am talking about perspectives. If you believe everything you read, then tell me, what do you use your mind for? Ask yourself, what founds your understanding of grammar, and the complex use of language in a poetic concept as its contrary? Do you really know how Tupac used words? When he says "my ambitions as a writer" but writes "my ambitions as a ridah" - both statements sound the same. Yet 'ambitions as a writer' suit a poet. Hail mary this fucking ambiguity!

 

[HipHop77]

its funny how u can take something so simple to me, which i feel with my heart, and make it into some over processed shit. do i really know he used words?? um, well i dont hardcore study it and come up with conclusions that may not be true, gimme some examples of pacs ambiguity in his songs if you dont mind.

 

[Bender]

its funny how u can take something so simple to me, which i feel with my heart, and make it into some over processed shit. do i really know he used words?? um, well i dont hardcore study it and come up with conclusions that may not be true, gimme some examples of pacs ambiguity in his songs if you dont mind.

Have you been following me on this board or what? My main message on Tupac's lyrics is his ambiguity. I have even made a thread named so.

Tell me, how do you study poetry? You are far behind if you don't understand the signature in Tupac's lyrics related to ambiguity.

Let me ask you, do you know how Shakespeare used words? No, you don't. Tupac did, he knew. 2Pac even said that Shakespeare was 'dope'.

Look up my thread named Tupac's Ambiguity, that might give you some insight on what I talk about. If not, you will constantly hear me referring to it until someone else on my level of linguistic understanding relates to it. Language is the art of Poets, and Tupac superseded in this art.

 

[HipHop77]

alright man, ill see what i can learn, thx, and how old are you

 

[yak pac fatal]

alright man, ill see what i can learn, thx, and how old are you

im guessin in the late 40s

 

[Kadafi Son]

Haha, love the threads that explain to me more how Pac was the best lyriscist ever

 

[S O F I]

^You shouldn't if Yeshua is the thread poster.

 

[EDouble]

Whther not it was vicous, or this is"
let me put it this light if it said he says This is.. instead of vicious, does that make the fact that he is telekenetic less vicious?

 

[EDouble]

However its most likely Vicious thats how i remember it but havent listned in a long time but No More Pain is one of most under rated or just over lookedrecords from Pac

 

[EDouble]

many listen lines wasnt line in Untouchable beelieve about Bury me million pieces or some shit
then i keep in back of mind remembering another similar he mentions telekenises, like moving" seven, not seven what ht efuck maybe. moving, telekenises pieces my pistol ..' some shit
however it was dope