Cop beats 15 year old girl down

#23
If theres any beating to be dished out it's be the child's parents or custodians. Not as brutal as this by a police officer while already detained. That's ridiculous and if you cant see THAT, then you have a problem.



Thank you. And lol.
If the parents aint doing shit then someone else has to step in. The cops response was rough but maybe next time she will think twice about stealing cars and throwing her shoes at cops.
You are right though, i do have a Problem...with idiots like this little girl who steal shit and cant handle when they get caught. Its what she gets.
 

S O F I

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#25
I don't agree with the cop's handling of the situation but for some reason, I don't empathize with what happened to her.
 

Duke

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#26
^ That's my point. Mr Az Tech Loc seems to have little problems with a Turkish secret police approach to things.

Its got jack shit to do with whether or not this girl is a punk bitch or whatever.
 

Kadafi Son

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#27
If the parents aint doing shit then someone else has to step in. The cops response was rough but maybe next time she will think twice about stealing cars and throwing her shoes at cops.
You are right though, i do have a Problem...with idiots like this little girl who steal shit and cant handle when they get caught. Its what she gets.
If you got any kids or plan to have any, you better raise em' to be angels got-damnit. Cuz if they act up while I'm on duty, I'm gonna beat tha shit outta those bastardz. I'ma bash their heads into tha wall, slang em across the cell, punch em while their down and leave em needin medical attention. And just maybe, that'll teach em to respect authority.

Listen man, there are grown azz people out there who commit worser crimez, talkin shit to tha cops, and their punishments are still left up to the judge. Those cops are still without a justified cause to assault that 15 year old like that. Back-talking and a whipped shoe? Get over it, throw tha shoe back across the cell and lock the door. Anger management and more than a year is what them pigs shoulda gotten.

And for tha sake of avoiding an argument from some uneducated and "trust in the law" members, I'm not gonna speak on race being involved too, which has being from Oscar Grant and all the way back
 

Chronic

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#29
I don't agree with the cop's handling of the situation but for some reason, I don't empathize with what happened to her.
Exactly what I was going to say, we're like all connected in the mind and shit.

This is an actual question, not nit-picking. Shouldn't "empathize" be "sympathize"?
 

keco52

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#30
^^^YES plz tell his a.ss!!! I remember having this discussion wayyyy back in the day about mr. I-was-in-honors-english.

Anyway I'm just not surprised about this is all.
 

Da_Funk

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#31
Exactly what I was going to say, we're like all connected in the mind and shit.

This is an actual question, not nit-picking. Shouldn't "empathize" be "sympathize"?
^^^YES plz tell his a.ss!!! I remember having this discussion wayyyy back in the day about mr. I-was-in-honors-english.

Anyway I'm just not surprised about this is all.
Do you two not know what the word empathize means? I expected better from you, Chronic.

I seriously can't believe some people here agree with what the cop did. Whether or not she deserved an ass kicking, its NEVER justified for a cop to beat someone who poses no threat to them, let alone excessively beating someone who poses no threat.
 

Chronic

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#32
Do you two not know what the word empathize means? I expected better from you, Chronic.
English is my second language, you should expect broken English :(

I knoweth what it means that's why I'm wondering if he should've used 'sympathize', unless he wasn't saying that he didn't feel sorry for her. Correct me if I'm wrong though, I'm actually curious about the usage.

Although I don't feel sorry for her I definitely think the cop's reaction was disgusting. Any news on what's going to happen to him or is the whole thing just starting to come out?
 

S O F I

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#33
Exactly what I was going to say, we're like all connected in the mind and shit.

This is an actual question, not nit-picking. Shouldn't "empathize" be "sympathize"?
You're correct. I got it backwards.


You can only empathize with someone if you've been involved in the same situation at another point and can relate in that way, more in an emotional way.

You sympathize if you haven't been involved in a similar situation, but you understand.

That's my understanding from way back then. Is that what I told you keco, or the opposite?
 

Chronic

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#34
Isn't empathy the ability to understand someone's feelings and sympathy actually feeling sorry for someone?

empathy the ability to understand another person's feelings, experience etc.
sympathy the feeling of being sorry for sb

Judging by your reply the dictionary explanation might not cut it though. Tell me more :love:

EDIT: I'm more confused after your edit. Quit toying with my emotions!
 

_carmi

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#35
^Fuck that conversation is getting confusing. I always thought it was what SOFI just said...

Just saw the vid, yes she stole a car and probably disrespected the two policemen. However she should have not been beat up like that. She was no threat to the policemen. It's up to the justice to screw her up. Police is not the justice.
 

Duke

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#37
Sympathy is the broadest understanding of the word. Empathy is more an ability to relate to something, to be able to put yourself in that position.

It's complicated either way.


"Synonyms:
1. concord, understanding, rapport, affinity.Sympathy, compassion, pity, empathy all denote the tendency, practice, or capacity to share in the feelings of others, especially their distress, sorrow, or unfulfilled desires. Sympathy is the broadest of these terms, signifying a general kinship with another's feelings, no matter of what kind: in sympathy with her yearning for peace and freedom; to extend sympathy to the bereaved. Compassion implies a deep sympathy for the sorrows or troubles of another coupled to a powerful urge to alleviate the pain or distress or to remove its source: to show compassion for homeless refugees. Pity usually suggests a kindly, but sometimes condescending, sorrow aroused by the suffering or ill fortune of others, often leading to a show of mercy: tears of pity for war casualties; to have pity on a thief driven by hunger. Empathy most often refers to a vicarious participation in the emotions, ideas, or opinions of others, the ability to imagine oneself in the condition or predicament of another: empathy with those striving to improve their lives; to feel empathy with Hamlet as one watches the play."
 

S O F I

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#39
Isn't empathy the ability to understand someone's feelings and sympathy actually feeling sorry for someone?

empathy the ability to understand another person's feelings, experience etc.
sympathy the feeling of being sorry for sb

Judging by your reply the dictionary explanation might not cut it though. Tell me more :love:

EDIT: I'm more confused after your edit. Quit toying with my emotions!
methinks me confused too. :(

I do...you DON'T :amuse:



You said the opposite...you said your honors english teacher told you that's how it was and I told you that she/he was stupid.
Thank God for the search function. No, I did not get it backwards.

Here's the post: http://www.streethop.com/337665-post90.html

On Friday, my Honors English teacher explained the difference to me and the rest of the class. I don't remember the example well, but here it is in a nut-shell. She described how it must be hard for young, black teenagers to grow up and become something of themselves in today's society, with all of these tests and statistics proving how most of them will end up in jail or dead. Now, she said she can empathize with the black teenagers, because she can understand their situation and she can understand how it is to be in their shoes. However, she can't sympathize because she wasn't actually in their shoes and felt what they are feeling. Basically, to empathize is to understand, sympathize is to actually have felt it or went through the same situation. We can all empathize with how it was to live through the hurricane in NO, but how many of us can sympathize? How many of us went through something similar?

Also, that thread's interesting. Keco talks about getting harassed in school!
 
#40
If you got any kids or plan to have any, you better raise em' to be angels got-damnit. Cuz if they act up while I'm on duty, I'm gonna beat tha shit outta those bastardz. I'ma bash their heads into tha wall, slang em across the cell, punch em while their down and leave em needin medical attention. And just maybe, that'll teach em to respect authority.

Listen man, there are grown azz people out there who commit worser crimez, talkin shit to tha cops, and their punishments are still left up to the judge. Those cops are still without a justified cause to assault that 15 year old like that. Back-talking and a whipped shoe? Get over it, throw tha shoe back across the cell and lock the door. Anger management and more than a year is what them pigs shoulda gotten.

And for tha sake of avoiding an argument from some uneducated and "trust in the law" members, I'm not gonna speak on race being involved too, which has being from Oscar Grant and all the way back
when I have kids they wont need to be taught respect by someone else, trust. you gotta raise them with love from the start so they wont turn out to be dumb fucks like this little girl here and steal cars and shit.

I deal with kids like this every day at my job bro. Now i understand what you are saying about the police going to far, they did, but unfortunately someone had to and they just happened to be the ones to do it.

As for uneducated, just because i dont agree with you and sympathize for what happened to this girl, or think that the cops werent wrong doesnt mean that I am uneducated. it just means i have my own opinion. and in my opinion she got what she deserved for her actions.
 

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