Oct 24 - Obama declares swine flu a national emergency

masta247

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#41
I'm aware of these photos and some worse ones too.

The major blast radius was "only" 1 mile not even fully totaling harbor in Nagasaki (I believe it missed and thus hit the city center killing almost 1/4th of its population). Except destroying or damaging almost half of the whole city it also destroyed 3 major weapon plants.
Sure some effects were still in play up to 3-4km from the ground zero.
I'm not saying that it was a nice move from Americans but really, if you think about it it wasn't just an "all bad an evil pointless move". Like I said it was only that shocking because it happened in a moment.
Without the need for pointless long fights with many more people dying PLUS it delivered a huge shock effect making them instantly give up.

It pretty much ended the war and paradoxally reduced the amount of potential casualties imo.
Seriously, up to 150k dead in Hiroshima and Nagasaki vs. almost 80million (about 50million civilians) over a few years of war.
It's less than 0.2%.
 

Duke

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#42
I'm not disputing the use of the bombs, I just thought your "didnt really destroy the city" sentence was, well, let's leave it at "weird".


And it's not like you can say "they targeted such and such weapons plant". I mean, they had to drop the things on *something*. The real reason was of course the psychological impact of the bombs. High command didnt really give a damn about what the bomb annihilated, as long as the Japs knew they had it.
 

masta247

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#43
yeah okay, what I meant is that it's not that they totally annihilated these cities - like wipe them off the map.
It was more like devastating a huge part of them, blowing everything in the ground zero and leaving surroundings in ruins but there were areas that remained in good condition.
That's what I've meant with "not destroying whole cities".

These nukes were supposed to do both - destroy important military facilities and create the shock value. In theory they tried to aim at areas with the highest military/civilian ratio. These bombs dropped from a high attitude missed their real targets. In Hiroshima it was an ironic mistake since it exploded directly over a clinic while Nagasaki wasn't even a target for the second bomb.
It's pretty important to note that after that a lot of Japanese still didn't want to give up their fight and they were not far from taking a few more A-bombs.
 

Duke

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#44
Nagasaki wasn't a target? I've never heard about that. Do you mean that Nagasaki wasn't an intended target at first (possible) or do you mean that they actually missed whatever they were going for and ended up lobbing it out over Nagasaki (not true)?

The reason the A-bombs flattened so much is because most Japanese houses at the time were still made of wood. That's why firebombing also worked like a treat.
 

masta247

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#45
Nagasaki wasn't a target? I've never heard about that. Do you mean that Nagasaki wasn't an intended target at first (possible) or do you mean that they actually missed whatever they were going for and ended up lobbing it out over Nagasaki (not true)?

The reason the A-bombs flattened so much is because most Japanese houses at the time were still made of wood. That's why firebombing also worked like a treat.
I mean that the second bomb was aimed at Kokura but weather conditions were bad and after 3 runs when they were running out of fuel they had to drop the bomb over Nagasaki.



Actually Kokura was a target for the first nuking too. I guess they were really lucky.

Yeah most houses in Japan are still made of wood so despite there being a blast radius of 1 mile everything around was in flames soon after.
 

Duke

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#46
That's what I mean with High Command not really giving a hoot where they'd drop it on. There were tons of good targets that could do with a "taking-out", but reason 1 to 10 was "let them know we can do this".
 

masta247

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#47
However there was a list of potential target cities. Sure, almost half of Japanese cities had some sort of weapon plants but Nagasaki had Mitsubishi weapon factory and the only torpedo facility, it was somewhat a secondary target.
Kokura was their primary target because the nuclear explosion would have caused the biggest damage there. Also the city was unaffected by the war by that time.
 
#52
Well, goddamn this thread was ahead of its time.

Unvaxed gang:)
Yes it was. Trust me, I would have been on Duke's side back then... Duke is cool.

The final nail in the coffin so to speak for me was the Obama regime telling the world that we needed to fight "Russia, terrorism and Ebola"

You know what that's all about!!

Now Barrack's in London?? hmmmmmm CIA bros
 

yak pac fatal

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#53
Yes it was. Trust me, I would have been on Duke's side back then... Duke is cool.

The final nail in the coffin so to speak for me was the Obama regime telling the world that we needed to fight "Russia, terrorism and Ebola"

You know what that's all about!!

Now Barrack's in London?? hmmmmmm CIA bros
I never trusted Obama. My friend put me in the 9/11 rabbit hole in 07 so since then I never trusted the government and the media. All the media does manipulates peoples emotions to create extremists and these extremists don't even know they're exactly what they hate. Barry Soetoro.

Bruh you should've seen the names I was called by my friends for refusing to get a unproven vaccine. That's why I ain't even post it here til now. Everyone I know bent the knee and got it lol.
 
#54
My friend put me in the 9/11 rabbit hole in 07 so since then I never trusted the government and the media.
I hope you still have that friend! :)

Bruh you should've seen the names I was called by my friends for refusing to get a unproven vaccine.
mine from birth,

Gaijin, French doll. American monkey, fair skinned. enemy, envy. envy, enemy. Hiro, Honda (lol ok). Wang,. Wangster........... Racist, white-supremisism-ist, danger, toxic, homophobe, right-winger, moron, conspiracy theorist, Trump supporter, nationalist, half-way-to-the-halfwayhouse-and-homeless, the plague.

You don't know how little you matter until you're all alone. 'Cause I am, and you are madly involved, madly involved. Your family stopped inviting you to things, Won't let you hold their infant. You used to get a little cut-up from time to time, but the freaks ain't trying to sleep with cracky.

Crooked cop, dead cop
How much dope can you push to me?
Crooked cop, dead cop
No good for community
Fuckin' pig get shot
Three hundred men will search for me
My brother get popped
And don't no one hear the sound
Don't no one hear the rounds, ooh, sound
Don't no one hear the shells, ooh, shells

Don't no one hear a sound
Don't no one disturb the peace for riot
Don't no one disrupt nirvana
Don't no one wanna blow the high
Crack rock, ooh
Crack rock, ooh
Crack rock, how you feeling girl?
Ooh, how's the gutter doin'?
Crack rock



pz.
 
#55
And after all said and done, after Uzi'ing the brains out of the messengers, these motherfuckers got the nerve to act like they knew it all along, like I was standing on a milk crate, like I watch Alex Jones. Like I didn't pay my dues reading myself to hell while their over-previliged asses partied at concerts. Fuck you is all I have to say. and I don't care about any y'all, I'm fucking screaming to the ocean, hoping my own blood hear me.

pz.
 

yak pac fatal

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#56
I hope you still have that friend! :)



mine from birth,

Gaijin, French doll. American monkey, fair skinned. enemy, envy. envy, enemy. Hiro, Honda (lol ok). Wang,. Wangster........... Racist, white-supremisism-ist, danger, toxic, homophobe, right-winger, moron, conspiracy theorist, Trump supporter, nationalist, half-way-to-the-halfwayhouse-and-homeless, the plague.

You don't know how little you matter until you're all alone. 'Cause I am, and you are madly involved, madly involved. Your family stopped inviting you to things, Won't let you hold their infant. You used to get a little cut-up from time to time, but the freaks ain't trying to sleep with cracky.

Crooked cop, dead cop
How much dope can you push to me?
Crooked cop, dead cop
No good for community
Fuckin' pig get shot
Three hundred men will search for me
My brother get popped
And don't no one hear the sound
Don't no one hear the rounds, ooh, sound
Don't no one hear the shells, ooh, shells


Don't no one hear a sound
Don't no one disturb the peace for riot
Don't no one disrupt nirvana
Don't no one wanna blow the high
Crack rock, ooh
Crack rock, ooh
Crack rock, how you feeling girl?
Ooh, how's the gutter doin'?
Crack rock



pz.
My friend became Hollywood lol. Got himself a girl and then a new set of friends.

Which side of your family did you catch the most nonsense from?
 
#57
All sides but mostly clueless liberal side, gay shit, white narcissistic people with BLM and All Is Welcome signs posted on their front lawns. the "9-11 doesn't matter anymore" assholes, EV-driving, can't tell the difference between fireworks and gunshots, affluent-ass, clueless, self-ritghous, middle-class pretending to be top 1% ass, they must constantly feel good about themselves by treating minorities as inferior ass, paint the cross-walk rainbow ass, protect our trans-kids and, YOU OVER THERE IN THE RED HAT! Stop talking about dead brown kids in the middle-east, we're talking about mexican kids in cages!! Obama awesome, Tim Cook awesome. Well-laid assholes.

Those F@%%OT ASS ASSHOLES.

Two of my own sisters and their pussy whipped bitch ass husbands (and their gay families. I don't give a fuck who they fuck, really)

pz.
 
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