1st and 2nd shooting? Your opinion

[Shadows]

Are they tied together in your opinion, why or why not?

 

[yak pac fatal]

na they aint together. the situations were different each time thou i believe for both shootings he was the ONLY target, nobody else.

 

[Kobe]

^^^ True, totally different scenarios so they cant be connected. For the second shooting, it was just a bizarre night. Too many scenarios could have been played out that night but it was just bizarre.

 

[KJ1]

I was listening to a mopreme interview from this past year and it surprised me what he said about the second shooting....... the guy giving the interview asked who he (mopreme) thought was responsible for it, and he said the cops, "dirty cops", but he wouldnt elaborate..... I wonder what type of scenario he was eluding to

 

[Kadafi Son]

I was listening to a mopreme interview from this past year and it surprised me what he said about the second shooting....... the guy giving the interview asked who he (mopreme) thought was responsible for it, and he said the cops, "dirty cops", but he wouldnt elaborate..... I wonder what type of scenario he was eluding to

Dirty cops who didn't like how more and more political Pac was becoming, and the fact that he was a son of a panther member, basically. Or copz paid off by Suge. No one knows

 

[KJ1]

I wonder if cops pulled the trigger or just had something to do with the planning and/or cover-up........

I always thought that the cops were involved one way or another, but was, and still convinced that Orlando pulled the trigger......

The sad part is, that the FBI was probably on the scene that night...... Actually i think Ray Luv or Mopreme were on that Pushin the Bay and said that they thought the feds were following Pac at all times...... Another interesting thing I heard Mo say was when the guy asked him about when Pac tried to tell him something in the hospital, and Mopreme said he thinks Pac saw something ( i took it that he recognized the gunmen or he put 2 and 2 together of who was responsible) We've heard so many stories on whether he was conscious or not, I wouldnt be surprised if he was capable of communicating until the final surgery but thats just my opinion....... We'll never know

the truth is that all we will ever have is speculation....... I wish one of the Outlawz will one day tell what they know..... I understand why they have not and won't for a long time, but hopefully before i "check out" they will.....

While on the subject of the Outlawz, I wish they would address some issues in song, I think it would help them musically and generate a little buzz....... by issues i mean, Faith flat out lying in her book (i know edi released a statement), the way Pac was portrayed in Notorious, and especially the way Puffy came on his little blog and told his one sided view of things......

Sometimes i think they try not to step on people's toes anymore in fear that it will close some doors from a business perspective, which may be 100% the right thing, but they were built on controversy and now may be the time to address some old and new issues.....

 

[Shadows]

For those saying cops were involved in the 2nd, therefore they were not connected somehow, how do you know that for sure?

Dirty cops could have been involved in the 1st shooting.

Remember, a cop that didn't like Tupac was present @ the scene, saying "How is it hanging 'Pac?" (Refering to nuts being shot).

KJ1 i feel you about how i think the outlaws should shed some light on the info.

 

[VegasBlue]

One of the things that is funny about the first and second shooting, is that there are connections with both. And different aspects of the second are connected with Biggie's. but at the same time, the responsibility for the shootings likely are on different shoulders...

 

[Bender]

the first shooting was a set up, the second shooting was done in haste.

 

[KJ1]

KJ1 i feel you about how i think the outlaws should shed some light on the info.

I just heard this podcast that Money B was hosting and it was a tupac tribute and they had EDI on there...... B asked him how often he was approached for info for pac movies and documentaries...... Edi said that before Pac died he had been kind of preparing his camp for the time when he wouldnt be around and all that..... Pac told him that people would be asking all about his life and death and to not tell them anything...... He (pac) said that if they know everything about me then why would they buy new albums and material, that there would be no mystery....... Edi said that anytime he has been a part of some doc or movie that he has done it reluctantly because pac didnt want them to...... \

So i understand now why they dont say more and why they sometimes seem to perpetuate the alive theories, because it leaves unanswered questions and mystery..... and i agree with that logic

 

[Shadows]

^thats cool, but there is no more mystery. everyone gave up on the theories.

 

[KJ1]

he never said any thing about the theories, just the stuff about what pac told them not to do...... i used to try to make myself believe the theories about 5 to 10 years ago but not since ive grown up......

I wish they would just come out and say what actually happened, who was involved, and what, if any, consequences the shooter was dealt, but in reality what would 2pac or the outlawz benefit from that.........
I think its interesting how much thought pac must have put into this whole after im gone plan...... I understand the outlawz keeping their views to themselves, just doing what pac asked them to......
Pac was definitely a special guy


btw, you can listen to that podcast at moneyb69.podomatic.com
go down to tupac tribute

its like two hours long, and mostly music, but they got some cool stories about pac and some unreleased songs pre death row