2-Pac~1994 NYC SHOOTER & MOTIVE REVEALED!

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Rukas

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#21
KrAzY:aka:AnDy said:
Thanks for the heads up on that Ruk, just out of curiosity do you think it would be fair/possible to say that the shooters behind pac's death were from NY?

I mean it's not exactly like pac shut up after he got shot in '94... he kept going with disses all the way through till his last album (Against All Odds, Bomb First etc...).

Its a possibility, but one that I doubt.

Why would New York mobsters kill Tupac in Vegas when he was still coming to New York regularly?
 

KrAzY:aka:AnDy

Under The Influence
#22
Rukas said:
Its a possibility, but one that I doubt.

Why would New York mobsters kill Tupac in Vegas when he was still coming to New York regularly?
Well if you think about it, if they were to shoot him while he was in New York everybody including the feds would assume that the shooters were from New York.

But this way (because he was shot in Vegas) everybody is assuming it was either someone from L.A. or L.V. right?
 

Rukas

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#23
KrAzY:aka:AnDy said:
Well if you think about it, if they were to shoot him while he was in New York everybody including the feds would assume that the shooters were from New York.

But this way (because he was shot in Vegas) everybody is assuming it was either someone from L.A. or L.V. right?

These people dont really think like that.

If you think about it, had he been shot in NY they could have easily just blamed some crazy obsessed Bad Boy fan.
 

Rukas

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#25
K. Kortez said:
I'm from New York so I know what you're talking about. Go to ALLHIPHOP.com to talk about that,the majority of people that post there know wassup. On here it's little kids from Germany/Russia and etc that really don't know what you're talking about and think you're an idiot or delusional or just plain bored.........even though everything u said is true. Go to the illcommunity at Allhiphop. They already got a post about this thats like 10 pages long of other people that put together the same clues......
Where's your allhiphop-dont-even-know-who-tut-is-yet-you're-from-new-york ass now?

;)
 
#26
Rukas said:
Pac wasnt a snitch, but, maybe it wasnt them, maybe it was. It doesnt matter if they were still responsible for the hit.
Right,if it had been Jack Pac wouldn't have snitched on him or anything. But it just seems unlogical to me if it had been Jack. Because Pac would have recognised him when he entered the studio and then he wouldn't have just passed them and gone to the elevator. So,unless the whole thing went down differently than what Pac and Stretch have said, I just always assume that it wasn't Jack who shot him. It was Tut and one of his 'dirty men' I think..
 
#27
From what I know is that Tut shot him and set the whole thing up.


Someone clear this up:
How is Jimmy Henchmen involved? What I don't know about the circle is how did Pac get the girl from out the club to the hotel. How many people were involved with the rape. Was Hatian Jack in the hotel that night and did he supposedly have his way with the victim and who else is involved. I thought the men who robbed and shot 2pac were masked and had on army fatigue. It's still unclear to me if 2pac shot himself in the studio. One minute I hear the bullets are from the same gun and then the next time I hear something different.


This is a very side question:

Was tupac stabbed in jail right before he went to deathrow?
 
#28
Rukas said:
Listen, it dont matter where you from, geeks talking shit on the net is geeks talking shit on the net.

Jimmy Henchmen isnt a boss, he's just a gangster/hustler/manager. He used to go by the name Booker. King Tut wasnt the fucking shooter, King Tut was the boss, is still the boss of the Black Mafia. Not Booker, not Jack, but King Tut.

And furthermore, Tut is alive, he wasnt shot, hes locked up.

The whole thing was a set up from the go, including the rape case, because Pac didnt wanna sign to Bad Boy which Tut financed. At first they tried to make him, with the rape case Pac was almost dead broke, they offered to pay his bills, etc etc if he signed but he said no.

When he started being vocal about the "others" in the case, they had him shot. Hatian Jack was probably a snitch, he had a seperate trial for the same case and got off, he also worked for Tut, and the Black Mafia also had the NYPD (probably the officiers involved with the case and shooting) on the pay roll.

You people really have no idea how deep this went. Pac had some major nuts on him, not only did he call out the whole east coast, several of its key mobsters, but King Tut, the head of the Black Mafia.

If you want to put it into perspective, Supreme was never really that big of a gangster, Tut was the real deal. And Supreme had a fucking movie dedicated about his life, New Jack City was based on Supreme. Tut had way more power than that.

Anyway, that article above is very old.
You're an Australian kid who thinks he's a boss because he's spoken to a few rappers? The people I know who you've spoken to say you're an idiot. Redman is one of them.

You don't know what the Black Mafia is. It's not a super organised thing. It was a big gang that was ran under than name. It was full of stick up kids, hustlers and shooters. It wasn't until recently that the Black Mafia joined up with BMF.

Tut was powerful, but you don't know anything about him. I'm related to some very, very powerful dudes who know a lot about the shit that went down in New York. I don't even want to hear your reply, because there's no way you can know what I know, unless you're really, really deep in the streets, or you're talking to snitches.

You still think 'Pac wasn't a jumped in Blood for fuck's sake. I respect you Ruk, but you abuse your power on here. You act like you know so much, when you don't know much at all.

Not dissing you, just setting it straight.
 

Rukas

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#29
Element said:
You're an Australian kid who thinks he's a boss because he's spoken to a few rappers? The people I know who you've spoken to say you're an idiot. Redman is one of them.
Really, thats funny cause I doubt you know my government name and Redman doesnt know me as Rukas and I only spoke to him once while he was very high and he was very persistant in giving me his cell phone to hook up some business at a later date, so you're really full of shit there. I really doubt you even know anyone, or anything that you didnt learn from the net.

Oh as for my being from Australia, funny, considering you're from the UK.

You don't know what the Black Mafia is. It's not a super organised thing. It was a big gang that was ran under than name. It was full of stick up kids, hustlers and shooters. It wasn't until recently that the Black Mafia joined up with BMF.
The Black Mafia/Black Mafia Family is run by Tut, same organization, stick up kids or not.

Tut was powerful, but you don't know anything about him. I'm related to some very, very powerful dudes who know a lot about the shit that went down in New York. I don't even want to hear your reply, because there's no way you can know what I know, unless you're really, really deep in the streets, or you're talking to snitches.
Dude, you're from the UK, how are you running so deep in the streets of NY then? I dont know anything about Tut? Perhaps you should read over my last post again.

You still think 'Pac wasn't a jumped in Blood for fuck's sake. I respect you Ruk, but you abuse your power on here. You act like you know so much, when you don't know much at all.
Oh wait, so now you're in the streets of LA as well as NY?

Pac wasnt a Blood, he was affiliated, but he was never jumped in.
 
#32
Rukas said:
Really, thats funny cause I doubt you know my government name and Redman doesnt know me as Rukas and I only spoke to him once while he was very high and he was very persistant in giving me his cell phone to hook up some business at a later date, so you're really full of shit there. I really doubt you even know anyone, or anything that you didnt learn from the net.

Oh as for my being from Australia, funny, considering you're from the UK.



The Black Mafia/Black Mafia Family is run by Tut, same organization, stick up kids or not.



Dude, you're from the UK, how are you running so deep in the streets of NY then? I dont know anything about Tut? Perhaps you should read over my last post again.


Oh wait, so now you're in the streets of LA as well as NY?

Pac wasnt a Blood, he was affiliated, but he was never jumped in.
BMF isn't run by Tut, it's run by Justice and Meech.

I know a lot about that shit because I got family out there. A lot of my family were the niggas holding 'Pac down in Queens, in Yonkers, in Brooklyn and the Bronx. Ask any real nigga.
 
#34
To what extent did Pac have to go to be considered a Blood on this board? Even if we ignore the fact that he pummeled a Southside Crip in the MGM.

"Fuck the rap game nigga, it's MOB, so believe me we enemies."
"We claim MOB, M.O.B. if you be specific."
 
#36
Morris said:
So Tut was Pac's enemy because he was an opponent of money over bitches? :)
No, haha. We all know that Tut had legitimate involvement in Pac's New York shooting, so Pac was calling Tut out and saying that he had an army to back him up--certain Blood sets, through Suge and Death Row--so it wouldn't be like in New York when Pac was basically on his own since everyone else was connected somehow to those behind it.
 
#38
We all know that Tut had legitimate involvement in Pac's New York shooting, so Pac was calling Tut out and saying that he had an army to back him up--certain Blood sets, through Suge and Death Row.
I would argue that this explanation (which I was already aware of and completely agree with) goes beyond Pac merely being "affiliated" with the Bloods. Pac's threat on Against All Odds isn't simply about rolling with the local Mob Pirus, it's about banging.

And I don't think Pac could be more explicit than "We claim MOB, M.O.B. if you be specific" in All Out.
 

EDouble

Will suck off black men for a dime
#39
Morris said:
I would argue that this explanation (which I was already aware of and completely agree with) goes beyond Pac merely being "affiliated" with the Bloods. Pac's threat on Against All Odds isn't simply about rolling with the local Mob Pirus, it's about banging.

And I don't think Pac could be more explicit than "We claim MOB, M.O.B. if you be specific" in All Out.
pacs shit was bigger. You think the bloods control all cash from atlantic-pacific?

And think in relation to against all odds...Why would pac threaten a huge NY mobster by sayin hes a blood in los angeles :confused:
And roll with and rap with (and rap with on a track called M.o.b.) crips in addition 2 bloods.
 
#40
Morris said:
I would argue that this explanation (which I was already aware of and completely agree with) goes beyond Pac merely being "affiliated" with the Bloods. Pac's threat on Against All Odds isn't simply about rolling with the local Mob Pirus, it's about banging.

And I don't think Pac could be more explicit than "We claim MOB, M.O.B. if you be specific" in All Out.
True, but I didn't want to mention those things since it would turn this into a "Pac is a Blood" thread, which is not what this is really about.
 
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