52 Pac Cent

#1
This thread is for people who listen to 2Pac and 50 Cent and can compare without negative comments. If you have any flaming comments I will delete them.

Anyways, I want to know what you guys think of the way 50 Cent recently acted and the reason this is in Pac's forum is because I believed he used strategies from Pac and is actually beginning to emulate him.

1. Even though Pac didn't make the beef public, the beef between him and Snoop is the exact same as 50 Cent & Game had. Snoop said he would do tracks with other artists and he wasn't in the beef. Pac was angered by this, but never made it public as I said. 50 acted the same way towards Game and used this to gain more attention before his album release.

2. 2Pac began beefing with people who were associated with B.I.G., not people only directing in his camp but others who he felt were representing them. 50 creates "Piggy Bank" and goes after Jada and Fat Joe believing they are choosing sides when doing songs with Ja Rule.

3. Pac said "yo if you wanna make yo money, you gotta rap for the bitches".. Do not rap for the niggas, I told the nigga, don't rap for the niggas, rap for the bitches.. The bitches will buy your record, and the niggas want what the bitches want" talking about Biggie. 50 has used this technique with his recent album releases, and knowing that beef records created buzz he states "beef records don't sell, In Da Club sells, 21 Questions sells"

4. Pac beefed with East Coast rappers, even though he was from the east, he was signed to a west coast label. 50 is on the radio discussing how fucked up New York rap is and how east coast artists aren't making music right, him also signed to a west coast label.

5. Pac stated often to plan, plot, strategize and was very militant with his decisions that he made. 50 said about "Piggy Bank" that he recorded that record and any response that was to come back at him had already been recorded and was calculated. He said that everything has already been thought of and he's prepared for whatever because he has it all planned out.

There is other things, such as "My Toy Soldiers" but I don't want to get into those things. I am a 2Pac fan and a 50 Cent fan and I am not hating with my speculations of 50's intent. I would like to hear what you guys have to say about this and how you feel about it.
 
#2
I don't listen to 50 Cent much at all but I also think he should be his own man and stop being a arrogant prick... He is not emulating Pac he is just making a mockery of it... Pac was shot, went to jail, and felt betrayed by Biggie and the system etc. Whether you agree with that or not you have to understand why Pac was taking the actions he did... 50 is just trying to make money and his beefs are pointless and stupid... :thumb:
 
#3
some odd similarities there..maybe the article about 50 going in the "tupac" spiral has some backup. However, I feel that if 50 keeps up at his current way of doing things, I hate to say that he may end of with the same fate as tupac.
 
#4
ur right in some of these points but the snoop thing was real and the game thing was fake. but i can see where u comin from and in a way he is trying to imulate pac but i think pac's situation was much more personal and serious.
 
#5
I totally agree that Pac's situation was real and from the heart. The reason why, because it was something original that had never happened before. He was actually going through that and there is no way anyone else could expierience that unless they took the steps to make it happen themselves which is what 50 is doing in my opinion.
 
#6
I will be the first to constructively hate on 50 Cent here concerning Pac.

I honestly used to be a 50 fan. back in the days of, you know, Power of the Dollar, the 2001 EP, How to Rob, all that stuff around late 90's to early 00's.

not any more. he emulates Pac, yes, but very poorly, and honestly it makes me sick. his work ethic is better than most rap artists, I'll give him that - he puts out a lot of mixtape tracks, freestyles, etc, which is kinda respectable but not really considering none of them have a good message AND he used to do a LOT more than he does now. he changed for the much worse after he joined Shady and it's been downhill since then.

think about Pac now. not only did he do a ton of songs, but he made songs with a GOOD MESSAGE. the bigger he got, the MORE he was in the studio and his quality songs never got worse as time went on. his beef was because he truly thought Biggie KNEW WHO TRIED TO KILL HIM and didn't tell him.... remind me of the basis behind 50's extreme hate for Ja?

also, where are the songs that 50 has made with any decently positive, progressive message behind it? all I hear when I listen to the album is negative vulgar garbage, from one club song to the next beef song to a b/s love song. where's the artistic quality here? we know that he's "hard" and that he isn't scared to kill people, that he sold/sells drugs, whatever. what about talking about kids in the ghetto who have nothing? what about talking to POOR PEOPLE? what about asking God for forgiveness?

he tries to emulate Pac, this is very true. but true artists and real people don't need to emulate anybody.
 
#11
This thread is for people who listen to 2Pac and 50 Cent and can compare without negative comments. If you have any flaming comments I will delete them.

Can you not read people?
 
#13
its obvious that 50 cent is losing much respect from many Pac fans for various reasons. if u ask me, 50's probly thinkin, hmmm, Pac did it, so fuck it. He's doin lots of things that would compare him to 2pac.
 
#15
I thought it was a clever title.

Anyways, 2Pac is too much of a strong influence to these rappers. It's like his influence is a weapon of mass destruction that shouldn't fall into the hands of people who aren't going to use it for what's right.

50 has the fanbase now, he should now use his audience to do positive things.
 
#16
pac was born to make changes, not to create a candy shop and 24hours fuckin groupies...

pac had no time fo that,,.,,
pac was like muhamed ali in boxin he was a fuckin rebel...
50 is not that newest, its more a second LL Cool oder ice cube wit gangsta atidude
its a shame when poeples compare 50 music career/life, to pacs life/music

2Pac 2 Produce and Create
R.I.P
 
#17
Okay 50 n 2Pac are my two fav. rappers, basically only rappers I deeply listen to. But I don't care what you guyz say, I don't think 50 had any intentions on copying 2Pac at all. Shit happenz, thats the way it iz.
 
#20
2pacthuglawzjer said:
im glad yall wakin up!!!everythin he dissed ja 4 he doin it!!!he is the biggest pac biter he beats ja!!!!his cd is garbarg!!!!!


haha i dont hear him rapping tupacs lyrics like JA.
listen kid 50 aint bittin pac.. Ja was bittin pac. Ja is still bittin pac.
50 is just raw like pac so people compare em.
also they compare him cus he got shot up like pac.
but he aint tryin to be pac thats just stupid to say.... :eek:
Ja on the other hand is a complete pac bitter...
if 50 starts stealin pac's lyrics then we can call him a bitter...
 

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