Big Syke on new Spider Loc mixtape, remakes All Eyez On Me

Chronic

Well-Known Member
#22
prince mack said:
If you sign to the g unit label,you're part of the group.

i don't,but id assume for money and fame

Are you big syke? And if we don't share the same point of view,then i am automatically wrong?


Wrong.Doesn't matter if he has a problem with him or not.When snoop went and did pop songs with justin timberlake,he didn't have a problem with timberlake,yet he sold out. yes or yes?

He says fuck snitches,etc.. in his songs,then goes and signs to a well known snitch's label.That would be money before morals,no?
No signing to G Unit does not make you a member of the group G Unit. Was Nutt-So a part of the OUTLAWZ when he signed to that one-album deal?

Problem is you don't know what Big Syke is thinking. 50 Cent is not a well known snitch, he has been widely accussed of being a snitch. How do you know Big Syke thinks he's a snitch? You don't.
How do you know Big Syke is signing for money and fame? You don't.
You said it yourself, you're assuming. I'm asking you to provide actual arguments and you're listing a bunch of assumptions.

No you're not automatically wrong if you don't agree with Syke's point of view but you're not the one 'selling out'. If Syke is selling it then Syke is compromising himself, so your opinion means fuck all, that's what I'm saying. Your opinion on 50 doesn't matter, mine doesn't matter, all that matters if Big Syke's. Provide me a link to where Big Syke tells us his opinion on 50 and if it's negative then I'll agree with you. Until then, you have no valid points.

prince mack said:
Wrong.Doesn't matter if he has a problem with him or not.When snoop went and did pop songs with justin timberlake,he didn't have a problem with timberlake,yet he sold out. yes or yes?
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First of all you're analogy doesn't work as it's two different situations. Syke signing to a label by someone that makes pop songs and Syke making pop songs are not the same thing. So why would Syke signing to G Unit and Snoop making a pop song be comparable?
Secondly in order to compromise yourself you need to to have a problem with something but ignore your morals to gain something from it. What does Justin Timberlake have to do with selling out? Jack shit. If Snoop was selling out it's because he was making a pop song not because he collaborated with a pop artist. The outcome of the song is what matters.

And Snoop making a pop song is not automatically selling out. You need to compromise yourself in order to sell out. How the hell do you know Snoop compromised himself? Maybe he likes Justin Timberlake's music and liked the sound of the song.

If you want to have a valid point show me where Big Syke compromises himself to make money based on facts, not your hatred for 50.

I'm not even saying that you're wrong, maybe if G Unit offered Syke a deal he'd sign for the money and compromise himself but fact remains you're just accusing Syke based on nothing.

(Speaking hypothetically since Syke didn't sign)

I've never said the word compromise this fucking much.

Compromise.
 
#23
Chronic said:
No signing to G Unit does not make you a member of the group G Unit. Was Nutt-So a part of the OUTLAWZ when he signed to that one-album deal?
Tell me,who is part of the G-unit label and not part of the group?

Chronic said:
Problem is you don't know what Big Syke is thinking. 50 Cent is not a well known snitch.
LOL,are you serious? He snitch on blackchild for stabbing him.He even filed an order of protection.The document was all over the internet awhile back.That's fact

Chronic said:
No you're not automatically wrong if you don't agree with Syke's point of view but you're not the one 'selling out'. If Syke is selling it then Syke is compromising himself, so your opinion means fuck all, that's what I'm saying. Your opinion on 50 doesn't matter, mine doesn't matter, all that matters if Big Syke's. Provide me a link to where Big Syke tells us his opinion on 50 and if it's negative then I'll agree with you. Until then, you have no valid points.
ok

Big Syke said:
Fuck snitches
50 cent = snitch

We put the equation together

Big Syke said:
Fuck 50 cent
Nuff said



Chronic said:
First of all you're analogy doesn't work as it's two different situations. Syke signing to a label by someone that makes pop songs and Syke making pop songs are not the same thing. So why would Syke signing to G Unit and Snoop making a pop song be comparable
I was making a different point. I was not comparing the two situations.

Chronic said:
Secondly in order to compromise yourself you need to to have a problem with something but ignore your morals to gain something from it.
That's exactly what he would be doing.


Chronic said:
What does Justin Timberlake have to do with selling out? Jack shit. If Snoop was selling out it's because he was making a pop song not because he collaborated with a pop artist. The outcome of the song is what matters.

And Snoop making a pop song is not automatically selling out. You need to compromise yourself in order to sell out. How the hell do you know Snoop compromised himself? Maybe he likes Justin Timberlake's music and liked the sound of the song.
Claiming to be a hardcore gangsta ,then going and making pop music is not compromising?

Chronic said:
If you want to have a valid point show me where Big Syke compromises himself to make money based on facts, not your hatred for 50.
Like i said,syke talks down on snitches.It's a fact 50 is a snitch,not just an accusation.
 

Chronic

Well-Known Member
#24
"Tell me,who is part of the G-unit label and not part of the group?"

M.O.P, Mobb Deep, Olivia and Spider Loc.

"LOL,are you serious? He snitch on blackchild for stabbing him.He even filed an order of protection.The document was all over the internet awhile back.That's fact"

Yes it's a fact that a order of protection was issued. Another fact is that 50's name was nowhere in the documents and it was clearly stated that there was no evidence that 50 issued it. The BEEF DVD researched that shit so maybe you should watch that DVD and not go by hearsay. Did you actually look at document or did you just buy into it right away?

"Nuff said"

When did he say that? If he did say that then yes you'd probably (I say probably because I don't know why he said fuck 50 Cent so I don't know if the problem he had with 50 has been resolved) be right that he was selling out if he signed to G Unit

"Claiming to be a hardcore gangsta ,then going and making pop music is not compromising?"

No not necessarily. As Snoop states, he's grown as an artist. The guy has always been fake as fuck so I don't even think you can talk about selling out anymore.

"Like i said,syke talks down on snitches.It's a fact 50 is a snitch,not just an accusation."

Unless you're going by something other than the order of protection, which ultimately didn't prove jack shit, you don't have the evidence to back up that he's a snitch. So nope.

Still, no valid arguments besides the vague Big Syke quote. Can you shed some light on it?
Kind of hard to discuss this actually since Big Syke hasn't signed to G Unit.
 
#26
Chronic said:
"Tell me,who is part of the G-unit label and not part of the group?"

M.O.P, Mobb Deep, Olivia and Spider Loc.
it would only make sense mobb got the g unit tattoos because they are part of the crew rather than the label.

Chronic said:
Unless you're going by something other than the order of protection, which ultimately didn't prove jack shit, you don't have the evidence to back up that he's a snitch. So nope.
Fuck it,Forget the order of protection.Look back at the time when 50 cent went on BET and said murder inc was started with drug money.What happened next? The feds raided murder inc. Look back at the time 50 made songs such as quetto quran and named street gangsters and drug dealers,who were then investigated by the feds. Tell me that isn't snitching.Or last year when 50 went to the feds and said supreme is trying to kill him.Etc.............

That syke quote was only him saying fuck snitches,and since 50 is one, he would have been referring to him too.In loyal to the game syke also says snitches came and fucked the game.
 

Pittsey

Knock, Knock...
Staff member
#27
prince mack said:
Fuck it,Forget the order of protection.Look back at the time when 50 cent went on BET and said murder inc was started with drug money.What happened next? The feds raided murder inc. Look back at the time 50 made songs such as quetto quran and named street gangsters and drug dealers,who were then investigated by the feds. Tell me that isn't snitching.Or last year when 50 went to the feds and said supreme is trying to kill him.Etc.............

Was 2pac a snitch?

I'd say No.

But didn't 2pac say Biggie set him up in interviews? Didn't he blame Haitian Jack, and Jimmy Henchman in interviews?
Didn't he do in "Against All Odds" what 50 Cent done in "Ghetto Qu'ran"????
 
#29
Pittsey said:
Was 2pac a snitch?

I'd say No.

But didn't 2pac say Biggie set him up in interviews?
No.He never said biggie set him up.He said biggie knew about it but didn't tell him.

Pittsey said:
Didn't he blame Haitian Jack, and Jimmy Henchman in interviews?
Didn't he do in "Against All Odds" what 50 Cent done in "Ghetto Qu'ran"????
No.All he did in against all odds was call haitain jack a snitch,and promised a payback to jimmy henchman.50 cent was dropping gangsters' names and saying they are killers,drug dealers,etc...There's a big difference.
 
#30
Pittsey said:
Was 2pac a snitch?

I'd say No.

But didn't 2pac say Biggie set him up in interviews? Didn't he blame Haitian Jack, and Jimmy Henchman in interviews?
Didn't he do in "Against All Odds" what 50 Cent done in "Ghetto Qu'ran"????
2pac claimed hatian jack and them dudes snitched on him so he made against all odds to expose a snitch. it's not the same thing as ghetto qu'ran. also pac never said biggie set him up. all he ever said was that biggie knew about it. there is no comparison. peace
 

EDouble

Will suck off black men for a dime
#32
Pittsey said:
Seems the same thing to me.

I guess you love Pac and hate 50 so make exceptions.
its two diferent shit cuz stop makin up hate. everything u said that pac did was untrue.

'its okay that 50 did all that, look pac did the same'
God damn for artists that u go out of your way to say that 'i don't like their music, personally, but that doesnt mean, theyre not talented, i just, don't have any hate, i support them 100%, other peopel like them' u sure do go out ya way to defend
 

Pittsey

Knock, Knock...
Staff member
#33
EDouble said:
its two diferent shit cuz stop makin up hate. everything u said that pac did was untrue.

'its okay that 50 did all that, look pac did the same'
God damn for artists that u go out of your way to say that 'i don't like their music, personally, but that doesnt mean, theyre not talented, i just, don't have any hate, i support them 100%, other peopel like them' u sure do go out ya way to defend

Touch a nerve did I???

It's the same thing. You like 2pac so it's OK, you hate 50 so you don't.

Whether I listen to 50 or not. I'm not defending or attacking. Just stating the obvious that you fail to see. I don't go out of my way to say I don't listen to their music. Check my posts, I DO listen to their music. I just said I'm not a fan. But that isn't to say I don't like certain tracks, becuase I do. I listen to them in clubs, and in the gym and enjoy it.

And I defend them, because you all hate them. It's fun.



Well done, you've turned it into a 50 Cent thread.


No need for me to comment anymore, I see where you all lie. All I'm saying is I can't see the difference.
 

EDouble

Will suck off black men for a dime
#34
Pittsey said:
Touch a nerve did I???

It's the same thing. You like 2pac so it's OK, you hate 50 so you don't.

Whether I listen to 50 or not. I'm not defending or attacking. Just stating the obvious that you fail to see. I don't go out of my way to say I don't listen to their music. Check my posts, I DO listen to their music. I just said I'm not a fan. But that isn't to say I don't like certain tracks, becuase I do. I listen to them in clubs, and in the gym and enjoy it.

And I defend them, because you all hate them. It's fun.



Well done, you've turned it into a 50 Cent thread.


No need for me to comment anymore, I see where you all lie. All I'm saying is I can't see the difference.
lol u the one with the nerves touched. ?!!!??.

All i said was, that u were makin up hate with the lil pac comparrison. there ain't no comparin tupac with 50 with what you was tryin to break which jus was a continuation of how Spider loc was Dissing pac.

50 was droppin everybodys names in ghetto koran and sayin what they did on the streets.
There is a difference because everything you said with pac was false. pac never said biggie set him up, pac never said haitian jack or jimmy henchman in interviews, & on against all odds pac called the snitch jack out and threatned jimmy. and pac never talked with the police.

its lame fuckin shit for you to try and say people are blinded with hate & try to mix pac n as evidence of dilusion. when ur the one dilusioned yourself.
 

Pittsey

Knock, Knock...
Staff member
#36
EDouble said:
lol u the one with the nerves touched. ?!!!??.

All i said was, that u were makin up hate with the lil pac comparrison. there ain't no comparin tupac with 50 with what you was tryin to break which jus was a continuation of how Spider loc was Dissing pac.

50 was droppin everybodys names in ghetto koran and sayin what they did on the streets.
There is a difference because everything you said with pac was false. pac never said biggie set him up, pac never said haitian jack or jimmy henchman in interviews, & on against all odds pac called the snitch jack out and threatned jimmy. and pac never talked with the police.

its lame fuckin shit for you to try and say people are blinded with hate & try to mix pac n as evidence of dilusion. when ur the one dilusioned yourself.

I am not dillusioned. Nor is a nerve touched.

And if you were a Pac fan back in 95 you'd know that he was being called Snitch from certain people.
Much like with 50 Cent now, there was a lot of jealousy, and people would find anyway they could to attack him, even his lyrics on songs.

They are artists for fucks sake, it's a song. I can't believe you actually sit on your PC's and the internet and try to bring "the code of the streets" into your music listening experience.

It was ssaid 50 cent spoke to the Police, yes, but never proven. A lot of people said 2pac spoke to the police after the shooting, never proven, and 1 I don't believe.

I hate comparing 50 Cent to 2pac, because there is no comparison musically. But in terms of hate Pac received back in 1995-6 and the hate 50 Cent gets now is similar. People hate the man on top.

Have you listened to Ghetto Qu'ran, or looked at the lyrics? There's nothing in there that could be used as evidence. And artists have pretty much creative license, so even if there was, the police couldn't do shit. Maybe it isn't 100% the same, but it's close enough. And I can't believe you adore Pac, and dislike 50 so much you can't see it. Also, everything 50 said was common knowledge in NY, amongst the people and the police. It's like me speaking on Pablo Escobar in a track saying he's a drug dealer, a few years back.

This thread is done, you have your opinion... And I have mine.

And telling me ai'm a G-Unit dickrider (which is what you suggested, and why I took an overdose last night) is not going to change my mind.
 
#37
I agree with Pittsey. 50 got it all - money, fame and future in front of him and that's why so many people hate him - because he made it out of the streets. I don't like many of his songs but some of them I enjoy. But even if I wouldn't be enjoying his tracks I'd still respect him because he made it from the hood and therefore accomplished his major goal.

BTW: if he was such a snitch, shouldn't he be dead by now since he dissed kind of powerful people with obvious connections? Is it so hard to find 50 Cent and kill him for snitching? I don't think so...
BTW: so many people gets called a ''snitch'', even Tupac with his big mouth (bigger than 50) I don't pay any attention to this no more...

Some people are bitching about Curtis Jackson taking 50 Cent's name. They say he ''stole'' that name. Well, then Tupac Shakur is the biggest thief that ever lived: he take Machiavelli's name, also Dillinger's, Kastro's, Kadafi's, Napoleon's, Hussein etc. And nobody ever said he stole that names. No-fuckin'-body. Just because he was Tupac it was all right. But 50 took one cat's name and it is a HUGE problem for some people.
 

EDouble

Will suck off black men for a dime
#38
rofl this wasnt about hate,people who hate 50 or whatever but bout Pitt tryin to make a claim in the middle of big syke/spider,when it was bein talked about 50 bein a snitch, that pac should be classified the same way.

he said a list of shit then when he got proven wrong, he tried 2 say people were blind with love for pac and hate for 50. 'its the same thing'.

regardless if the hate for 50 is held by people cuz he sucesful this that the other it dont make it oaky for u to make up shit. u should have came with that point to begin with instead of leaping into somethn u didn't know.



but Lol at how this thread developed into bout 3 different discussions
 

Pittsey

Knock, Knock...
Staff member
#39
EDouble said:
rofl this wasnt about hate,people who hate 50 or whatever but bout Pitt tryin to make a claim in the middle of big syke/spider,when it was bein talked about 50 bein a snitch, that pac should be classified the same way.

he said a list of shit then when he got proven wrong, he tried 2 say people were blind with love for pac and hate for 50. 'its the same thing'.

regardless if the hate for 50 is held by people cuz he sucesful this that the other it dont make it oaky for u to make up shit. u should have came with that point to begin with instead of leaping into somethn u didn't know.



but Lol at how this thread developed into bout 3 different discussions

I don't think I was proved wrong. I still think it's the same thing. And I don't think Pac was a snitch. A lot of people were calling him that back in 1995, just like a lot are calling 50 now.

The same Pac haters back in 95 are now loving him.

Envy is 1 of the worst emotions man possesses.
 

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