biggies a liar

#1
in who shot ya puff says 95 but big sed he wrote it be4 pac got shot, so thats ikno it was goin at pac, i think biggie lied about alot sayin bad boys move in silence and shit he proly killed pac
 
#2
He did not kill Pac and you should just make a thread of all your thoughts and feelings of Pac conspiracies cuz you tend to post some new shit everytime you think of something new.
 

aLDo

New Member
#4
joeyb8420 said:
in who shot ya puff says 95 but big sed he wrote it be4 pac got shot, so thats ikno it was goin at pac, i think biggie lied about alot sayin bad boys move in silence and shit he proly killed pac
The og "Who Shot Ya" featuring Keith Murray was written way before the official version was released in '95, it was also originally used as a interlude on Mary J. Bliges' "My Life" album which was released in november '94...and as far as i can remember 2Pac was shot on november 30th...
 
#5
aint that wut forums are for 2 post ur thoughts and who u 2 tell me wut i cant say, im just voicin my opinion dude and most of the time im right or just curious
 

Chronic

Well-Known Member
#7
So because Puff says '95 on the track, Biggie couldn't have written it in '94? Sure, that makes sense.

1) Writing a song and recording a song are two different things
2) Puff Daddy and Biggie are two different people. Even if Puff said "'07 in this bitch lawl!" it wouldn't mean shit.

Please think before you post a thread.
 
#9
in who shot ya puff says 95 but big sed he wrote it be4 pac got shot, so thats ikno it was goin at pac,
He said 95 because that's the year the single was going out. A track, even when finished, isn't likely to come out for months afterward (Think about Dre rapping "Now it's 95" on California Love, which came out in 96.) So if someone does a track in October, 1994, they'll likely talk about 1995 in it.

You don't have to look far for examples of this, because Pac did this constantly. Pac says 1993 at the end of Soulja's Story, which came out on 2Pacalypse in 1991. Pac talks about the game changing in 1995 on Outlaw, even though he recorded that before the November 94 shooting.

Pac even talks about 1997 in the Untouchable Freestyle.
 
#11
I feel bad for Biggie.

He was doomed the day he:
1. signed to badboy records
2. was in Quad studios the time of Pac's shooting
3. for ever making "who shot ya".

the one thing that's ironic about "who shot ya" is the 5 gunshots that went off at the end of the record seeing that Pac was shot 5 times. And that line about "lame one, turned front page one". Sometimes, when I hear it, I do think it's about Pac. And at other times, I think it was just a coincidence. I don't know.

But at the same time Biggie said he didn't know who shot 2Pac even though Pac made it clear that Biggie knew who it was and failed to warn him and then tell him when he asked.

I don't know what to believe, but it's good to have an open mind about the case.
 
#12
.. has anyone ever stopped to think maybe Pac was a liar? Maybe he was overreacting about the whole hing and was just a paranoid muthafucka... Or maybe, someone was spittin a whole lot of bullshit in his ear, cuz Pac's reactions to these 'theories and ideas' of who shot him would be profitable to others (hmm suge?).. Anyways all I'm saying is maybe Pac was misinformed, or maybe he was just paranoid, or maybe he was just a human being who enjoyed making money and also lied at times.

Honestly who cares if Biggie killed Pac. biggies dead, Pac's dead.. Both great rappers, dead over bullshit.

~peace
 

lii

New Member
#14
ImmortalTech said:
.. has anyone ever stopped to think maybe Pac was a liar? Maybe he was overreacting about the whole hing and was just a paranoid muthafucka... Or maybe, someone was spittin a whole lot of bullshit in his ear, cuz Pac's reactions to these 'theories and ideas' of who shot him would be profitable to others (hmm suge?).. Anyways all I'm saying is maybe Pac was misinformed, or maybe he was just paranoid, or maybe he was just a human being who enjoyed making money and also lied at times.

Honestly who cares if Biggie killed Pac. biggies dead, Pac's dead.. Both great rappers, dead over bullshit.

~peace
maybe he was paranoid but i think until U've actually been shot, u shouldnt just dimiss someone as a mother fucker who overreacted
 
#15
Or maybe, someone was spittin a whole lot of bullshit in his ear, cuz Pac's reactions to these 'theories and ideas' of who shot him would be profitable to others (hmm suge?)..
Pac was hearing it from people in jail. I don't think people locked up had much to profit from.

Besides, it's about universally accepted that Pac was shot by the Black Mafia, which had financial ties to Bad Boy. Pac got set up after refusing to sign to Bad Boy. And finally, he got robbed in the recording studio while the whole Bad Boy camp was there, after he was contacted by Lil Shawn to come do a song.

The only people who knew for sure that Pac would be coming to Quad that night were Bad Boy members and people rolling with him.

Anyways all I'm saying is maybe Pac was misinformed, or maybe he was just paranoid, or maybe he was just a human being who enjoyed making money and also lied at times.
There were simply too many disses on too many tracks that were almost certain not to see the light of day for the beef to be a money making scheme. Stuff like having a fucking 3 year old talking shit to Biggie on the Still I Rise OG (a song which couldn't have had less to do with beef, by the way).

Pac had a #1 album before the beef. Pac was a top seller regardless of beef. And Pac was dissing a record label that was getting money from a group that robbed him and nearly blew his head and balls off.

It wasn't about money.
 

Kadafi Son

Well-Known Member
#16
Morris said:
Stuff like having a fucking 3 year old talking shit to Biggie on the Still I Rise OG (a song which couldn't have had less to do with beef, by the way).
It wasn't about money.
That kid was talkin' about BIG?!
 
#17
P.U. said:
2Pac said 97 in Whatcha Gonna Do, but it was recorded in 96, omg he's a liar
check the lyrics, pac is sayin that he´ll cut them enemies down to size in 97

so it wasnt a lie, even more a logical prediction, so not comparable to the thread starters case
 

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