Charlie sheen vs barrack obama !!!

#43
:)

Are you serious? Are you fucking serious?

You either have to be completely kidding, or the most fucking retarded person I've ever met. How can you possibly believe shit like this? You are THE MOST gullible person that I've ever encountered. We didn't land on the moon eitherk, right? Elvis and 2pac are still alive, right? Race bombs....are you fucking stupid?
HAHAHA, I won't say much to that, don't need to.

You just shot yourself in the retarded head my friend. Maybe you shouldn't throw insults around like that just becuase you think you know everything there is to know, open up, take in information but not to heart unless it's proven.

Whats wrong with that, informing yourself, being aware of the possibilites ? If someone thinks there is no possibility for something, they will not be aware of it. So stop being arrogant and ignorant and be aware, for your own good dammit.

Don't just dismiss what I say because you think I'm trying to win an arguement, thats not why I post, jeez brother lighten up.
 
#44
Who cares?

well, there could possibly be weapons affecting one type/race of people more than other but who cares?
Yeah I guess the same kind of people who see conspiracies everywhere.
Well I'd say you would probably care if you found out China was making a white DNA bomb, pressuming your white? You get my drift....it is a concern, especially when we are considering the worlds ultimate military power and so on and so fourth, I think everybody should care or at least not dismiss it so easily.

Thats my opinion anyway.
 
#45
hmmm

But in the same theoretical light, immortality, light-giving penises and servant fish are also a possibility, so what are we talking about?
What are you on about? If you don't have anything informative to put in to the thread can you please stay out of it. It is a serious thread.

It's funny how people generally put "conspiricy theorists" down like they are ALL fanatical lunatics or something. Talk about stereotyping.

You will find, that once you uncover some of the hidden truths out there, usually there is a lot more to be found.

Some theories may be true, some may not be, but that's not to say we should dismiss ALL of them, that would just be ignorant.
 

Bobby Sands

Well-Known Member
#46
Seems like a fair few people on here, Bobbi Sands being one of them, moron.
why because i think that you are a nutjob?

I had some doubts about 9/11 as well until i did some research on it.

i just noticed that you called me a "wanker". so im guessing that you are maybe British or Irish?
 

Duke

Well-Known Member
Staff member
#47
What are you on about? If you don't have anything informative to put in to the thread can you please stay out of it. It is a serious thread.

It's funny how people generally put "conspiricy theorists" down like they are ALL fanatical lunatics or something. Talk about stereotyping.

You will find, that once you uncover some of the hidden truths out there, usually there is a lot more to be found.

Some theories may be true, some may not be, but that's not to say we should dismiss ALL of them, that would just be ignorant.

So what's the deal here? You just discovered the internet, hit a few conspiracy websites and are on this whole "knowledge God" trip? Because of course, everyone who doesn't believe 9/11 WASN'T a terror attack is an ignorant motherfucker, right? Blind to the light? We choose not to see the truth?

Luckily there's the intarwebz to prove all your ass-originated assumptions!


This thread lost it's seriousness when you, oh Champion of gullible, threw every available tinfoil hat theory out there.
 
#48
why because i think that you are a nutjob?

I had some doubts about 9/11 as well until i did some research on it.

i just noticed that you called me a "wanker". so im guessing that you are maybe British or Irish?
You're full of crap, because the more you look into it, the more suspect it is, wanker.

What just because I call you a wanker I must not be yank, is that it? What a wanker :)

Ok then Mr. I have proven 911 was real, show me your material about how it WAS NOT a hoax, and was actually a terrorist attack.

Please don't just paste wiki links, and I'm not giving you shit here, if you got some good info, please share.

Cheers,
 
#49
So what's the deal here? You just discovered the internet, hit a few conspiracy websites and are on this whole "knowledge God" trip? Because of course, everyone who doesn't believe 9/11 WASN'T a terror attack is an ignorant motherfucker, right? Blind to the light? We choose not to see the truth?

Luckily there's the intarwebz to prove all your ass-originated assumptions!


This thread lost it's seriousness when you, oh Champion of gullible, threw every available tinfoil hat theory out there.
So why keep coming back fool ? Yeah buddy that's it, I just wondered across one or two consipiricy websites, and now I'm converted!

You really show your true colours when you talk you presumtious media loving all american hero, spose you support the payed off governement 100% too right? I can assume too, fool so how about you just find another thread to participate in, becuase you are not wanted in mine.

Don't put words into my mouth, and stop making assumptions, if you want to believe that 911 was real, and not governement planned, sweet, now piss off out of my thread.

This thread has plenty substance if you minus the American Idiots such as yourself.

What's the deal, workin class hero ?

Fuckin moron.
 

Bobby Sands

Well-Known Member
#50
You're full of crap, because the more you look into it, the more suspect it is, wanker.

What just because I call you a wanker I must not be yank, is that it? What a wanker :)

Ok then Mr. I have proven 911 was real, show me your material about how it WAS NOT a hoax, and was actually a terrorist attack.

Please don't just paste wiki links, and I'm not giving you shit here, if you got some good info, please share.

Cheers,
it doesnt matter what i post, you'll still believe in a conspiracy. The facts are there but of course you ignore them like every conspiracy theorist.

you are a joke.

what is a wanker so?
 
#51
it doesnt matter what i post, you'll still believe in a conspiracy. The facts are there but of course you ignore them like every conspiracy theorist.

you are a joke.

what is a wanker so?
Buddy, that reply was a joke, be gone now, thanks for stopping by and let the door hit you on your way out perhaps it will end your misery.

The "facts" are there? Which the "facts" that were reported by the media which has been bought and paid for? Like the news reporter that reported the building collapsed before it actually did?

Righhhhhhht ! Mhmmm, for shaw.

Seriously you did not help yourself one bit there. Cya :)
 

ill-matic

Well-Known Member
#52
So why keep coming back fool ? Yeah buddy that's it, I just wondered across one or two consipiricy websites, and now I'm converted!

You really show your true colours when you talk you presumtious media loving all american hero, spose you support the payed off governement 100% too right? I can assume too, fool so how about you just find another thread to participate in, becuase you are not wanted in mine.

Don't put words into my mouth, and stop making assumptions, if you want to believe that 911 was real, and not governement planned, sweet, now piss off out of my thread.

This thread has plenty substance if you minus the American Idiots such as yourself.

What's the deal, workin class hero ?

Fuckin moron.
Yes. Everyone else is a dumbass except for you.

This is a case where a number of people within the community are dissatisfied with the reality of things so they begin to cultivate a melodramatic, alternate reality that is more fitting to their hysteria. Why is it so difficult to accept that it was a terror attack? In Russia, Chechen rebels kept a theatre filled with innocent patrons hostage; and on a separate occasion took hundreds of school children and their teachers hostage at the beginning of their school year. The point is, fucked up things happen. And in 9-11, the fucked up thing happened in America. Is it so difficult to grasp?

Why do some people insist on associating everything with some sort of conspiracy?

I mean, at the end of the day, regardless of how passionate you are about this subject, the evidence behind it is unsubstantial. It's not really enough to get so hot headed over. So relax and take it easy. Just because people disagree with you doesn't mean they're pawns to the media or whatever.

A common trait that conspri-theorists like you have is your unwavering, "im smarter than you" attitude. Get over yourself.
 

Bobby Sands

Well-Known Member
#53
for example- one conspiracy states that the twin towers must have been brought down by explosives because there is no way that the Twin Towers could have collapsed this way from the impact of the airplanes. Structural engineers have proven that it is very possible that the impact of the airplanes could have caused this type of collapse due to the design of the buildings.

Another theory states that the Pentagon was bombed and no plane ever hit the building simply because the hole in the side of the pentagon wasnt consistent with the width of this model of airplane including its wingspan. Of course these conspiracy theorists assumed that the plane hit the building dead on ignoring the fact that it hit the building at an angle and parts of the plane fell apart on impact.
 

ill-matic

Well-Known Member
#55
I have nothing against with placing doubt on certain things, and questioning what is considered to be fact. That's reasonable. But to assume your point of view AS that fact is just irrational. How the hell do you know anything? Who are you to assume that the "facts" you are reading is the complete truth?

Most likely you have read those items predisposed with the opinion (regardless of how strong) that 9-11 was a set up. As you already had the opinion formed, reading this material essentially solidified it.

But you are in no place, and you do not have the sound judgement to differentiate between fact and fiction. You are in no position to claim that what you are reading IS the be all and end all of fact. You don't have the power to prove that what you're reading is right. THAT is the only reality - that you just don't know.
 

vg4030

Well-Known Member
#56
The way I see it: the USA run this planet as we all know. If they went to war for no reason, which other country would stand up to them? Risk getting a nuclear bomb dropped on your country? Is it worth the risk or the lives?

I think the world would just watch and let them do what they wanted.
OK. You win the prize for the most ignorant post on this board.

Do you honestly think that the US can survive on its own? How about if the entire UN or if there wasnt a UN. If Russian, Korea, Iran, Pakistan, UK, Australia etc... basically the entire world who ALSO have nuclear weapons disagreed they would sit by and let the US drop a nuke on them?

The US cant just fly a plane anywhere in the world and do whatever the fuck they want. ie drop a bomb just cos you said you didnt like their actions... Read a political BOOK and understand how world government works instead of conspiracy theories on the internet
 
#57
Yes. Everyone else is a dumbass except for you.

That's not what I am trying to project, it's just hard to sit back and take it when you get 100 people calling you a crackpot, because you are trying to expose hidden truths, mhmm even for thier benefit

This is a case where a number of people within the community are dissatisfied with the reality of things so they begin to cultivate a melodramatic, alternate reality that is more fitting to their hysteria. Why is it so difficult to accept that it was a terror attack? In Russia, Chechen rebels kept a theatre filled with innocent patrons hostage; and on a separate occasion took hundreds of school children and their teachers hostage at the beginning of their school year. The point is, fucked up things happen. And in 9-11, the fucked up thing happened in America. Is it so difficult to grasp?

Is it a case like that is it, just so black n white isn't it? Just like when obama makes promises to withdraw troops, only to put in 30,000 more, are you one of those people that actually believed him when he said putting more in, will get all out troops out quicker?

It's not that is so difficult to accept it was a terrorist attack, buddy I WANT to believe that, as screwed up as that sounds, I too would be on the neverending bandwagon riding in to the never ending "war on terror" if I haven't read all the suspect crap about 9/11 there is too many unaswered questions about it, plain and simple. From the new owner of the towers changing security, to making money off them after the collapse to the silly ass reporter lady that said one of the towers collapsed before it did....THERE ARE TOO MANY SUSPECT QUESTIONS AND FAILED INVESTIGATIONS

I agree fucked up things happen, I could list some such as yourself and you may agree with me, but thats not to say becuase of that I believe what the media feeds me, each to his own I guess ?


Why do some people insist on associating everything with some sort of conspiracy?

Why, maybe becuase our whole system is TWISTED, CORRUPTED and made up of ELITE rulers, and as I said before, the more you uncover, the more there is to uncover, turn a blind eye if you wish, it will be your own downfall when you agree to the tamiflu and chips they want to give us

I mean, at the end of the day, regardless of how passionate you are about this subject, the evidence behind it is unsubstantial. It's not really enough to get so hot headed over. So relax and take it easy. Just because people disagree with you doesn't mean they're pawns to the media or whatever.

What evidence is that, the evidence propagated by our complete an unwaivering honest media ? The true heros of our world ? Cmon guy, you can;t be that ignoorant, are you just trying to shit me?

A common trait that conspri-theorists like you have is your unwavering, "im smarter than you" attitude. Get over yourself.
Like i said, it's not my intention, but if I come across like that when I'm defending myself, so be it, get over it.
 
#58
for example- one conspiracy states that the twin towers must have been brought down by explosives because there is no way that the Twin Towers could have collapsed this way from the impact of the airplanes. Structural engineers have proven that it is very possible that the impact of the airplanes could have caused this type of collapse due to the design of the buildings.

Buddy, thanks for the laugh, seriously. "structural engineers have proven" that your as gullible as the rest of the mass public, wow some people really are BLIND. Put your glasses on and take a look at these links...

Patriots Question 9/11 - Engineers and Architects Question the 9/11 Commission Report

Prominent Structural Engineers Say Official Version of 9/11 "Impossible" "Defies Common Logic" "Violates the Law of Physics" ~ Washington's Blog

^^
SERIOUSLY DO YOURSELF A FAVOUR !

Another theory states that the Pentagon was bombed and no plane ever hit the building simply because the hole in the side of the pentagon wasnt consistent with the width of this model of airplane including its wingspan. Of course these conspiracy theorists assumed that the plane hit the building dead on ignoring the fact that it hit the building at an angle and parts of the plane fell apart on impact.
"Another theory states" I have heard of a few others too, so what ? Does that automatically mean the governments versions of events are correct? Wake up.
 
#59
I have nothing against with placing doubt on certain things, and questioning what is considered to be fact. That's reasonable. But to assume your point of view AS that fact is just irrational. How the hell do you know anything? Who are you to assume that the "facts" you are reading is the complete truth?

Most likely you have read those items predisposed with the opinion (regardless of how strong) that 9-11 was a set up. As you already had the opinion formed, reading this material essentially solidified it.

But you are in no place, and you do not have the sound judgement to differentiate between fact and fiction. You are in no position to claim that what you are reading IS the be all and end all of fact. You don't have the power to prove that what you're reading is right. THAT is the only reality - that you just don't know.
I can see why you may think I'm biased, and you are more than entitled to your opinion.

And I can't disagree with much of your post, but I will say that at least I am willing to go beyond what the media is feeding us, to actually take the time out and research some of this pretty scarey ass stuff, are you putting it out there, and perhaps helping your fellow man to pull the wool that is possibly over his eyes ?

Look, the government controls the heck out of us as it is, and they are supposed to be there for us, to look after the people, instead they take huge bribes, sorry "donations" so that people get whatever they want passed in whatever avenue they want, it's just plain wrong. Go to any poor hood, then to the hills or some shit, and just see how fair our country and world is.

Elitism, power, money, materialism, competition and ego are all BIG things that our media push onto us, to aspire to that crap and that's what keeps us divided because mostly we eat it by the mouthfull.

I dont mean to say, I know all and listen to me, everyone else is wrong, but I do find myself defending my position a lot when all im trying to do is out a bit of corrupt horseshit that is going on, just trying to make people a bit more aware of some possibilities, so if ya wanna attack this brother for trying to help in his own way, well go ahead, thats your personality and so be it.

Peace n love.
 

Kobe

Well-Known Member
#60
OK. You win the prize for the most ignorant post on this board.

Do you honestly think that the US can survive on its own? How about if the entire UN or if there wasnt a UN. If Russian, Korea, Iran, Pakistan, UK, Australia etc... basically the entire world who ALSO have nuclear weapons disagreed they would sit by and let the US drop a nuke on them?

The US cant just fly a plane anywhere in the world and do whatever the fuck they want. ie drop a bomb just cos you said you didnt like their actions... Read a political BOOK and understand how world government works instead of conspiracy theories on the internet
LOL!! Why do people get so hostile towards the power the USA has on this planet? Thank you for twisting and turning my post into a 'conspiracy theory on the internet', which it never was as much as you may know how to look for them.

If you want to twist my words to create an argument on the web, look for someone else to argue with. However, I really respect your thoughts and opinions. That's why this is a forum. So, I'd like to say thank you for your generous award and, I have graciously added to your 'thanks' count with the hope I can add on to them in the future :lol:

Now for my acceptance speech: What were the terms of the Instrument of Surrender signed by Germany and Japan at the end of the 2nd World War? You'll be so surprised after you read 'a political book' about it. Please don't Google it and give me a quick response, take your time and read about it when you are free.

I love the UN, they stand for a lot with regard to humanity. Last time I checked the 'UN Secretary General' has to be approved by China, France, Russia, UK and USA. These five countries won't be going to war against each other anytime soon. The UN are not and will never be the saviors of this planet when a war breaks out. There have been many wars on that the UN did nothing about even when it seemed it was the right thing for them to do.

Then comes Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the United Kingdom, and the United States plus Russia, better known as the G8. These countries aren't going to go to war against each other anytime soon.

As for wanton use of nuclear weapons. Why were the Japanese nuked by the USA on the grounds of ethical justification? Let me guess. The Japanese wanted to see if they could be one of the leading nations in the fields of scientific research, particularly technology, machinery and biomedical research after being hit by two Atomic bombs, with the possiblity of a third one week later.

So since I'm so ignorant, please enlighten me? Pretty please? Which country is going to go to war head to head against the USA? Who will send their troops to fight a war on USA soil? I'll really take your word for it so throw me a bone here and give me an :idea:
 

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