Christians vs Comedy Central (Muslims can do it.. we want to get stuff banned too!)

Synful*Luv

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#1
Since the Muslim group was so successful at getting Comedy Central to ban the South Park episode and not air the second one... a new Christan group has been founded to stop shows from airing that offend them (even if the show hasn't been created yet.. and this one hasn't).

Let's just all go around complaining about everything that offends us and getting it all banned. I'm offended by people who are offended so easily.. can we get that banned? :X

The religious right vs Comedy Central | Stephen Tomkins | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk

A new organisation has been formed by the US religious right to attack a programme that hasn't yet reached pilot stage. JC, a Comedy Central cartoon about Jesus trying to live a normal life in New York, does not have a completed script, but Citizens Against Religious Bigotry (Carb) are calling on advertisers to force the channel to abort it.

Carb, starchier than your average lobbyists, are particularly exercised by the contrast with the way Comedy Central backed down on airing scenes involving Muhammad in South Park, fearing violence. "Does that indicate that Christians then are punished because they aren't crazy?" asked the talk show host and Carb Michael Medved.

So censorship goes pre-emptive, a TV show doesn't even have to be made in order to offend, and the duty to protect the unborn has no relevance to works of creativity. I suppose it's not so big a leap as all that to banning things that don't exist yet for those who devote their careers to banning things they haven't seen.

Religion is all about mystery, and nothing is so mysterious as the minds of the professionally offended. One mystery is what kind of God they serve.

He is said to be Almighty, and yet desperately needs sticking up for. His emotional maturity is not the subject of any creeds but surely something you would assume of the perfect source of all being, if it weren't for his total inability to take any joke featuring himself (or sex for that matter). He tells his followers to turn the other cheek if they are assaulted themselves, but if people make fun of him expects his followers to hit them where it hurts.

The Bible gives us rather conflicting impressions of God's attitudes to this kind of thing, but none of them fit very well with the God of Carb. There's the God of Moses and his successors, pockets full of locusts, boils and thunderbolts, just itching to strike down blasphemers, including those who touch the ark of the covenant to stop it from falling. Sure, this sounds very religious right, but if he really has such an arsenal at hand and the petulance to use it at the drop of an ark, does he really need or want charcoal-suited lobbyists fighting his battles for him by attacking the forces of darkness's advertising revenue?

The Bible also gives us the rather different example of Jesus, the well-known homeless, penniless preacher, who submitted to humiliation and mockery rather more savage than anything Comedy Central might deliver, and who told his followers that their attitude should be the same as his. He told them not to fight back when their faith was attacked and ridiculed, but to count it a blessing.

The letters of St Paul repeatedly point out that the way for believers to stop others blaspheming is not to deserve it. But the humility, gentleness and self-awareness of the New Testament can seem more Christ-like than Christian.

If God has little need of protection from hurt feelings or dented pride, there remains the mystery of whose pride campaigners are defending, and the obvious answer would seem to be their own. Blasphemy dents their sense of honour, by insulting their religion, and what Christians call serving God could often be called self-serving.

Do you know who was the first person in Christian history to be executed for blasphemy? Jesus. "You have heard the blasphemy. What do you think?" says the high priest at Jesus's trial according in Mark's gospel. "They all condemned him as deserving to die."

It is a point that ought to give pause to Christians who use their collective muscle to stop people offending against the faith. The defence of God is a tradition we can trace back from the post-Christian west through inquisitions and councils to the gospels, and when we get there Jesus is not on the side that some of us might have assumed.

Carb, as Medved would doubtless want to point out, do not want to kill anyone. But they want to silence creativity before it has had a chance to create, which is a pretty lousy way to behave.
 

Preach

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#2
I agree. It would be easier if the only right you had was that no one physically hurt and kill you.

It shouldn't be a right that you should be able to walk out and look anywhere you want and find only things that please your eyes.
 

Flipmo

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#3
They won't start any problems.

Comedy Central will still air wtv they want. The reason why is because they're not actually scared. South Park, and many other shows have offended devout Christians in the past, and there was just some verbal backlash... but that's all.

Now, the whole Mohammad and Islam thing is different, because it's implemented into peoples heads that there may actually be a violent extremist backlash to it all; as we have seen in the past in certain occasions.
 

Bobby Sands

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#4
your title is misleading. was that intentional?

i.e painting all christians with same brush like ye so often do in these threads

its a christian group. its a minority. not all christians as your thread title suggests. in fact im watching comedy central right now lol.

get over it.

damn.
 

Pittsey

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#5
This is like reading the Daily Mail.


Absurd Bullshit designed to offend everyone and sensationalise everything.




EDIT - Oh it's The Guardian. Same shit pretty much. A paper aimed at the white middle classes and designed to scare them all into hating the evil blacks, muslims and benefits scroungers. Most of it is extremely over egged.


Here's some examples -

daily mail scaremongering - Google Search
 

Bobby Sands

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#8
^^well its nothing compared to the Sun. thats the worst of them all. disgusting newspaper if you can even call it that.

yea the english press is awful really and Pittsey is right, you have people who take everything they read in that trash as fact. People with very low intelligence.
 

Flipmo

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#9
The Sun I know about lol, I was specifically thinking about them when I said that some newspapers are full of shit, but I thought for the most part that it was a minority with that certain newspaper.

Sad that people can read that stuff. It's like those tabloid mags here I guess.
 

Prize Gotti

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#11
If any laws get passed that allows something like this to happen, it will halt the evolution of man kind. Even in 2010, there are still millions of people who haven't gained enough intelligence to understand the true meaning of religion, which is to point out the obvious. The purpose of religion is the tell us what is right and wrong, and people should have the brain power by now to work this out for themselves without having to believe in mystical beings and "miracles".

If religion is allowed to become the controlling force of the world, the world will continue to fail like it has since the human evolved from the ape.
 

Synful*Luv

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#13
your title is misleading. was that intentional?

i.e painting all christians with same brush like ye so often do in these threads

its a christian group. its a minority. not all christians as your thread title suggests. in fact im watching comedy central right now lol.

get over it.

damn.
No I did not mean to imply that this applies to all Christians. Why is it whenever anyone posts anything about a group.. that person has to be extremely specific and also state "this doesn't apply to everyone" I mean.. seriously.. come on.. can't we just all assume.. that at any given time when someone posts something about a group that person knows that everyone who might be a part of that group isn't the same... geesh.
 

Synful*Luv

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#14
This is like reading the Daily Mail.


Absurd Bullshit designed to offend everyone and sensationalise everything.




EDIT - Oh it's The Guardian. Same shit pretty much. A paper aimed at the white middle classes and designed to scare them all into hating the evil blacks, muslims and benefits scroungers. Most of it is extremely over egged.


Here's some examples -

daily mail scaremongering - Google Search
Thanks for the info.. I didn't know that.
 

Preach

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#15
your title is misleading. was that intentional?

i.e painting all christians with same brush like ye so often do in these threads

its a christian group. its a minority. not all christians as your thread title suggests. in fact im watching comedy central right now lol.

get over it.

damn.
I think it's you that misunderstand the intent.

Pretty much, if you're part of a religion it's difficult for you to agree with this, but there is no reason why Christianity or Islam are better or worse than one another. They are like two flavors of ice cream. To anyone who doesn't believe in it, that's what it will look like. So when everyone is bashing Muslims, I think that bothers a lot of people, considering Christianity has the same points of criticism that Islam does. The two are no different, and ultimately it's the single person and not the whole religion that's to blame when something bad happens, yet that's almost never what happens.

All in all, I took it as her finding great injustice in the fact that some religions get special treatment. I don't see how you can disagree.
 

S O F I

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#16
I don't see injustice in one religion getting special treatment over another. The notion of equal treatment is a western ideal, not a universal law.
 

Preach

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#17
Well, the notion of treatment is individualistic. You greet people and say hello, I stab them in the fucking face. People will do what they like regardless of law. One way to look at a law is a guideline for how to live. The other way is "a recollection of how things normally work". The law doesn't dictate the people, the people dictate the law. We know this to be true.

Individual special treatment always gets a bad reception. One might say it is a norm to treat people equally, even in those countries where equality isn't as important. You don't treat women and men the same, but you treat two women the same, and you treat two men the same. You treat faithful servants of Allah one way, and you treat the infidel dog in another. The norms are different to ours, but the concept of equality very much exists all over the world. The definition varies.
 

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