Domestic Abuse Video Starring Keira Knightley

keco52

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#41
Really, it's survival of the fittest. The only ass I'm wiping is my own or my loved ones.
Yea...your mom got away but maybe not soon enough? Maybe it effected you in some way...and it could have been prevented had she had the resources to leave sooner. Maybe if she saw an awareness video she would have noticed the warning signs sooner and realized it was wrong.

I don't see what the big deal is.
 

ArtsyGirl

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#42
Dukie I think your getting too over-whelmed by the amount of people that do nothing. If you get an amount of people devoting time/money/support to a cause because of seeing this video or an advertisement or whatever it IS worth it, you can't focus on what you can't control. You can control what you do, how you help etc and it all starts with one person.

I remember hearing a story about a young boy who heard about how in Africa alot of people don't have clean drinking water, they were talking about it in his class. Instead of saying its too much not enough people are helping he started fund-raising and he raised enough money to build a well for a school which in turn helped the whole village, and he continued from there. Kids have such a better outlook than adults its phenomenal.
 

Duke

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#43
Dukie I think your getting too over-whelmed by the amount of people that do nothing. If you get an amount of people devoting time/money/support to a cause because of seeing this video or an advertisement or whatever it IS worth it, you can't focus on what you can't control. You can control what you do, how you help etc and it all starts with one person.

I remember hearing a story about a young boy who heard about how in Africa alot of people don't have clean drinking water, they were talking about it in his class. Instead of saying its too much not enough people are helping he started fund-raising and he raised enough money to build a well for a school which in turn helped the whole village, and he continued from there. Kids have such a better outlook than adults its phenomenal.

My rants aren't limited to this specific issue. I'm just totally fed up with the way the West deals with problems these days. Awareness adds with coked up celebs, t-shirts, pink ribbons.

But actually using our ridiculous amount of resources, money and knowledge to deal with it?

Nope. We'd rather invent a bigger tv.


and THAT'S why I'm saying fuck this shit.

So...fuck this shit. Fuck domestic abuse awareness ads and fuck pink cancer ribbons.

Just...fucking solve it.


EDIT: Also, what's this vid REALLY gonna do? IF, i say, IF there are people that need Kiera Knightly videos for them to realize domestic abuse is wrong and they should help to stop it if they notice it, WHAT THE FUCK?!

You really think people are gonna go "I never really thought about it, but since seeing that Kiera clip, I TOTALLY realized domestic abuse is wrong!".

If it's a problem it's a problem. No amount of "awareness" is going to help it. The people that don't see it happen don't see it happen. And the people that DO see it happen...well, like I said, if they need a celeb-ad to make them realize it's wrong then they should fucking die anyway.
 

S. Fourteen

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#44
Good marketing :thumb:


We all gather around the camp fire and tell ourselves how good we are and at the end of the day, we haven't done a thing. But it's okay because we raised awareness.
 

Sebastian

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#46
Society needs to get it's fuckin backbone back.
Seriously Duke, what do you do to contribute to society? In any way...

I mean you can say "fuck raising awareness" all day long and in a way you are right. But doing nothing at all and complaining about something is, well, you figure it out for yourself...
 

Duke

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#48
Seriously Duke, what do you do to contribute to society? In any way...

I mean you can say "fuck raising awareness" all day long and in a way you are right. But doing nothing at all and complaining about something is, well, you figure it out for yourself...

This is about domestic abuse. I don't have to deal with it right now, but when I can do something about it in my near vicinity, best believe I will. I have before.

So I'm not just complaining.
 

S. Fourteen

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#49
Maybe it effected you in some way
Oh just say it - You think I'm fucked up. :)

PS. I would say leaving everything I knew and going back to an infant without language skill was more traumatic than anything I've seen in my household. If you have an awareness video of that, I would like to watch it. ha
 

Duke

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#51
How do you fix domestic violence?
Not with these silly tv-clips, that's for sure. I don't claim to have the solution either, but a Kiera Knightly clip?

That's me pouring a bottle of Evian out in Nairobi, shrugging and saying "At least I tried something".
 

ArtsyGirl

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#52
Come on Duke, you have no suggestions but you can shoot down awareness clips? They must work to some extent otherwise I doubt they would spend money on doing them. You must realise some people actually get of their ass and help in a positive way..

And why does it matter who acts in them? Show me if I'm wrong but I doubt they paid Kiera to do it. If it was some girl who couldn't act we'd be complaining about how shitty the video looked instead of the issue.
 

S. Fourteen

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#53
How do you fix domestic violence?
This video does not fix it, that is for sure. An anti-depressant commercial is not going to fix my depression. Never.

I think there are plenty of outlets that women can seek to look for inspiration and courage. Like books for example - that kind of awareness I have no problem with. This video is just cheaply suited for the generation of information-now-now-now. They want a strong message wrapped in a shallow 30 second spot starring a pretty celebrity. It's just like Paris Hilton wearing a ribbon - she ain't doing shit. A lot of stupid shit is masked with good intention - What I can't stand is the stupid part.

How many stories of domestic abuse do you see on TV each year?
 

Duke

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#54
Come on Duke, you have no suggestions but you can shoot down awareness clips? They must work to some extent otherwise I doubt they would spend money on doing them. You must realise some people actually get of their ass and help in a positive way..
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I'm not ranting against charity, I'm ranting against the means with which their message is distributed.

You really think this clip is going to be the final push that will make people do charitable work? Hell, the only valid argument for this specific domestic abuse clip is to find people who might be willing to volunteer in a shelter home or whatever.

Cos I'll de damned if an abuser will stop wailing his wife after seeing Kiera, or an abused woman putting 1 and 1 together after watching the brilliant clip. Or a neighbour who, after being pleasured by the on screen graces of this domestic abuse cinema masterpiece, will finally check out why it sounds like a rape upstairs three days of the week?


All those categories (there's three, abusers, abusee's and vicinity people) will not be phazed much by a clip like this. The deep mental trauma's people like Preach argued for will most likely cause them not to change their opinion of the situation, just cos they saw a video in which it was all too clear it was wrong.


And well, if there's domestic abuse in your vicinity, and you CAN do something about it and you DIDN'T anyway, you're a total fucking asshole. No amount of awareness clips is gonna do squat.
 

ArtsyGirl

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#57
How do you know how the video would relate to the victim? I would say the video would create more action for those on the outside. But the part that says "I didn't sign up for this" to me could reach those women who maybe have just started getting abused and are unsure, they didn't agree to be abused and it may stop it before it's a total domination. Or the parents and friends who may be suspicious it may get them talking about it. I can see possibilities that the video might change something for someone for the better and to me the video isn't a total waste of time, like I said if they did nothing I doubt they would be making them.
 

Duke

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#58
If a video can accomplish what common sense can not, I hope an asteroid comes down tomorrow and obliterates life on earth, for then humanity is unworthy of existance.
 

ArtsyGirl

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#59
Have you ever had someone see the problems in your life ALOT clearer than the problems in their own? It's always easier to be on the outside looking in.
 

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