Euro 2012 Qualification
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Tell me about it. We deserved to lose though. I've never seen us play so badly in my life. It was like none of the players gave a shit, no heart at all... then again - Bilic was playing with a stupid formation against a team that actually came out and said they'd be playing bunker. In addition, he was playing guys out of position. Dude is a serious moron at times. That doesn't change the fact that our guys looked limp out there.
The only person who seemed to give a shit was Kranjcar, and Bilic takes him out? Wtf. Modric, man he can go fuck off back to Tottenham, he hasn't been useful to us since the Euros. Now we're in 2nd place behind the Greeks, with Georgia on our back and Israel just 3 pts behind. This shit is gonna go down to the last game, and maybe our guys can finally take their heads out of their asses, and that includes stupid fuck face Bilic and his piss-ass tactics.
Well done to Georgia though...
The only person who seemed to give a shit was Kranjcar, and Bilic takes him out? Wtf. Modric, man he can go fuck off back to Tottenham, he hasn't been useful to us since the Euros. Now we're in 2nd place behind the Greeks, with Georgia on our back and Israel just 3 pts behind. This shit is gonna go down to the last game, and maybe our guys can finally take their heads out of their asses, and that includes stupid fuck face Bilic and his piss-ass tactics.
Well done to Georgia though...
No, I agree with you. I'm fully aware that teams once considered easy beats can now cause problems to more established teams. We just played like serious crap. Once we got into the final 3rd its like we stopped caring. There was no sense of urgency, the only time we started actually running with the ball was once they scored at the 90' - then we had our best chance of the match. Extremely frustrating.
From my POV... Romania sucks balls. I would've went nuts if we lost our game today. We were losing 1-0 and came back in the last 25 minutes to win 2-1. I hope that Lulic moves to a bigger side than Young Boys... You guys will discover a sick left winger. He may move to Dortmund at the end of the season.
Good display against Wales from England, but Wales were awful in the first half, the likes of Bale and Ramsey won't ever play in a major tournament with that shit thats around them.
Neymar looks a good talent, it's been awhile since i've seen Brazil play with a player who has individual talent. (Robinho not included)
Neymar looks a good talent, it's been awhile since i've seen Brazil play with a player who has individual talent. (Robinho not included)
scum 
Kuyt scored 2 for the dutch last night. must have been a good game. 5-3.
Ireland lost 3-2 to Uruguay in a friendly. it was a good game and we had only our second team out really. they had pretty much everyone except Suarez. Although if Suarez was playing and he performed anything like he has been for Liverpool, he would have torn our defence apart. we had Stephen Kelly at centre half ffs lol. McGeady was class when he came on again. he was outstanding v Macedonia too, yet i have heard some idiots saying he should be dropped. pack of embarassing idiots. people who spout such shite, they just havent a clue. he has a touch of class about him. something we dont have alot of in our squad. i wonder if someone will try and sign him from Spartak Moscow. they wont let a good player go cheap though. which is the reason why i wish he moved somewhere else. and he should have left Celtic much sooner imo. Shane Long was very good too. linked with Liverpool a few weeks ago.not sure if Liverpool would buy him but he would better than Ngog as a back up striker anyway.
Kuyt scored 2 for the dutch last night. must have been a good game. 5-3.
Ireland lost 3-2 to Uruguay in a friendly. it was a good game and we had only our second team out really. they had pretty much everyone except Suarez. Although if Suarez was playing and he performed anything like he has been for Liverpool, he would have torn our defence apart. we had Stephen Kelly at centre half ffs lol. McGeady was class when he came on again. he was outstanding v Macedonia too, yet i have heard some idiots saying he should be dropped. pack of embarassing idiots. people who spout such shite, they just havent a clue. he has a touch of class about him. something we dont have alot of in our squad. i wonder if someone will try and sign him from Spartak Moscow. they wont let a good player go cheap though. which is the reason why i wish he moved somewhere else. and he should have left Celtic much sooner imo. Shane Long was very good too. linked with Liverpool a few weeks ago.not sure if Liverpool would buy him but he would better than Ngog as a back up striker anyway.
Portugal 'sells' Ronaldo to Spain in €160m deal on national debt
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...n-8364160m-deal-on-national-debt-2258903.html
Weighed down by debt, and reeling from the latest downgrading of their country's credit status, Portugal's finance ministry has secured the co-operation of football's highest-paid player in an audacious bid to draw the nation back from the brink of economic collapse.
In a move which some observers claimed "will lead to the destruction of the World Cup", Cristiano Ronaldo has agreed to "act like a patriot" and be sold to neighbouring Spain for €160m.
Last week, Prime Minister José Sócrates resigned after his government's latest austerity package was rejected by parliament. His move followed the downgrading of his country's credit rating to the category above "junk". While Ronaldo's fee, though double the current record (paid by Real Madrid to Manchester United for Ronaldo's club affiliation in 2009) barely dents the €12bn Portugal owes, Mr Socrates, now caretaker premier, believes that the international bond markets will take it as a symbol of Portugal's determination to tackle the crisis, and respond accordingly.
Although no footballer has ever previously been "transferred" between countries, there is extensive precedent for changing nationality, especially in Spain. Two of the greats, Alfredo di Stéfano and Ferenc Puskás, played for the Spanish national team after representing other countries and then taking Spanish citizenship. Di Stéfano – who is still involved at Real Madrid and is thought to have influenced Ronaldo's decision – had played for Argentina and Colombia. Puskás even played in the 1954 World Cup final for Hungary but went into exile after the crushing of the 1956 revolution. As recently as Spain's 2008 European Championship triumph, Marcos Senna, Brazilian by birth and parentage, was a key player.
Senna, however, had not played for Brazil. Since Puskás' day, Fifa, the world governing body, has tightened its rules. Once a player has played a competitive international for one country – at any age group – he cannot switch allegiance unless he had dual nationality at the time, and was educated in the second country. Mikael Arteta, Everton's Spanish midfielder, abandoned an attempt to play for England because he had played competitively for Spain under-21s. But Fifa's secretive executive committee is expected to meet today, in extraordinary session, to adapt its statutes to permit such moves in circumstances where both governments agree.
"It's insane," said a spokesman for the Bruges-based Keep Football Pure organisation. "Those idiot administrators have not thought it through, as usual. There's now nothing to stop Qatar buying a World XI. It'll destroy the World Cup, it will turn it into another Champions League – only worse."
Opinion is divided in Portugal. While many see Ronaldo's agreement to the move as the "ultimate patriotic gesture" others regard the transfer as a "surrender". Paolo Fril, professor of political economics at Lisbon University, told The Independent: "We were ruled by a Spanish king for 60 years [1580-1640] and had to go to war to win back our independence. This is not about Spain saving us –they are restoring the Iberian Union by the back door."
There are doubts in Spain, too. The issue is not naturalising Ronaldo, but whether he is needed. Spain are the current world and European champions, with a style of play that relies more on passing than the soloist skills for which Ronaldo is known. "If we are going to buy foreigners we should buy Lionel Messi [Barcelona's Argentinian star]," said one fan.
But if Ronaldo is unappreciated in Spain, his skills may be in demand elsewhere. Late last night, reports suggested that David Cameron was preparing a counter-offer, of £200m, to persuade Ronaldo to play for England. "The Premier League is where Ronaldo became a star," said the Prime Minister, "so it is only right and proper he should play for England." He added that Vince Cable had proposed a "Ferrari tax" to pay for it, though Ronaldo himself would be given exemption.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...n-8364160m-deal-on-national-debt-2258903.html
Weighed down by debt, and reeling from the latest downgrading of their country's credit status, Portugal's finance ministry has secured the co-operation of football's highest-paid player in an audacious bid to draw the nation back from the brink of economic collapse.
In a move which some observers claimed "will lead to the destruction of the World Cup", Cristiano Ronaldo has agreed to "act like a patriot" and be sold to neighbouring Spain for €160m.
Last week, Prime Minister José Sócrates resigned after his government's latest austerity package was rejected by parliament. His move followed the downgrading of his country's credit rating to the category above "junk". While Ronaldo's fee, though double the current record (paid by Real Madrid to Manchester United for Ronaldo's club affiliation in 2009) barely dents the €12bn Portugal owes, Mr Socrates, now caretaker premier, believes that the international bond markets will take it as a symbol of Portugal's determination to tackle the crisis, and respond accordingly.
Although no footballer has ever previously been "transferred" between countries, there is extensive precedent for changing nationality, especially in Spain. Two of the greats, Alfredo di Stéfano and Ferenc Puskás, played for the Spanish national team after representing other countries and then taking Spanish citizenship. Di Stéfano – who is still involved at Real Madrid and is thought to have influenced Ronaldo's decision – had played for Argentina and Colombia. Puskás even played in the 1954 World Cup final for Hungary but went into exile after the crushing of the 1956 revolution. As recently as Spain's 2008 European Championship triumph, Marcos Senna, Brazilian by birth and parentage, was a key player.
Senna, however, had not played for Brazil. Since Puskás' day, Fifa, the world governing body, has tightened its rules. Once a player has played a competitive international for one country – at any age group – he cannot switch allegiance unless he had dual nationality at the time, and was educated in the second country. Mikael Arteta, Everton's Spanish midfielder, abandoned an attempt to play for England because he had played competitively for Spain under-21s. But Fifa's secretive executive committee is expected to meet today, in extraordinary session, to adapt its statutes to permit such moves in circumstances where both governments agree.
"It's insane," said a spokesman for the Bruges-based Keep Football Pure organisation. "Those idiot administrators have not thought it through, as usual. There's now nothing to stop Qatar buying a World XI. It'll destroy the World Cup, it will turn it into another Champions League – only worse."
Opinion is divided in Portugal. While many see Ronaldo's agreement to the move as the "ultimate patriotic gesture" others regard the transfer as a "surrender". Paolo Fril, professor of political economics at Lisbon University, told The Independent: "We were ruled by a Spanish king for 60 years [1580-1640] and had to go to war to win back our independence. This is not about Spain saving us –they are restoring the Iberian Union by the back door."
There are doubts in Spain, too. The issue is not naturalising Ronaldo, but whether he is needed. Spain are the current world and European champions, with a style of play that relies more on passing than the soloist skills for which Ronaldo is known. "If we are going to buy foreigners we should buy Lionel Messi [Barcelona's Argentinian star]," said one fan.
But if Ronaldo is unappreciated in Spain, his skills may be in demand elsewhere. Late last night, reports suggested that David Cameron was preparing a counter-offer, of £200m, to persuade Ronaldo to play for England. "The Premier League is where Ronaldo became a star," said the Prime Minister, "so it is only right and proper he should play for England." He added that Vince Cable had proposed a "Ferrari tax" to pay for it, though Ronaldo himself would be given exemption.
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