Father Guns Down His Sons Teenage Bully

#21
CalcuoCuchicheo said:
I'm not sure if there is one, but just incase there is a misunderstanding, those that were to get 'leathered' were the bully and/or the bully's father.
If you can take the law into your own hands, then where does it stop, can you vandalise where you think a law should be enforced quickly. 'Crimes of passion' ?


I meant that the bully's father is responsible for his son & if the bully's father were to get his ass beat maybe he would keep his son in check a little better.(So as not to get beat up again)
Yes he is responsible for his upbringing, but would he be responsible for his actions where he had no knowledge of any kind of wrong doing. If he did have knowledge of wrong doing then that is a crime. Conspiracy!

As for the prison question, my answer is no, but I do believe that there are a bunch of crimes which parents are punished for in place of there child (who would be a minor), such as piracy & truanting, so it does happen.
Yes there are a number of misdemeanours. but these are where the parent is involved. IE where the parent has aided the truancy, and to add to this the people that parents can get locked up for are under 16. Minors only.


I think complaining to the school was contacting the proper authorities. If you're talking police, well, schools usually say to go to them first, although if you are talking police, it appears the father went to school, skipped the police part & went straight to the next step.
The school was a first point of contact, there were other avenues, like governors. But I was just pointing out that no one in this thread said he should have contacted any kind of authority who were higher in authority to a school head. 'Street justice' seems to be a justified avenue for a number of people.
 
#22
ken said:
If you can take the law into your own hands, then where does it stop, can you vandalise where you think a law should be enforced quickly. 'Crimes of passion' ?
Like I said before, 'punching & kicking' may result in 'not breathing'. I don't think the vandalism is actually stopping somebody's heart & brain working, therefore I don't find it as serious... but you already knew that didn't you.....

ken said:
Yes he is responsible for his upbringing, but would he be responsible for his actions where he had no knowledge of any kind of wrong doing. If he did have knowledge of wrong doing then that is a crime. Conspiracy!
OK, so maybe the father of the bullied should talk to the father of the bully first but in the event of the bully's father not caring, a beat down could clarify matters for him.


ken said:
Yes there are a number of misdemeanours. but these are where the parent is involved. IE where the parent has aided the truancy, and to add to this the people that parents can get locked up for are under 16. Minors only.
Piracy, as in downloading music from the internet, can result in parents being fined.
Also, & I suppose this depends on what you consider 'aiding', but if a parent has received notification that the child has being truanting but doesn't do anything about it, yeah the parent may end up in the slammer. If you consider being apathetic towards truanting 'aiding', then yeah you're definitely right.


ken said:
The school was a first point of contact, there were other avenues, like governors. But I was just pointing out that no one in this thread said he should have contacted any kind of authority who were higher in authority to a school head. 'Street justice' seems to be a justified avenue for a number of people.
Yeah, I just took it that most people had saw the school as the appropriate authrotity. As for the other avenues, I think I'll fall back on what I said (although I recognize you were talking about why no posters mentioned it), the father probably felt he didn't want to take the chance & wait.

As for 'street justice', yeah there's a lot of Steven Seagal motherfuckers on this board. Me included, given a situation which I feel strongly enough about.
 
#23
ken said:
does that justify murder?
Better believe it. If you become a bully, know the risks involved. I support the father 100%, eventhough this could have been done in a more legal manner. The only reason I am thinking twice about this is because he now may go to jail. If there was no jail sentence, go daddy go!

(this post is not a joke. I am serious)
 

Jokerman

Well-Known Member
#25
This was murder, plain and simple. The father should have shot his son instead for being a wuss. But seriously, the father should have taught his son how to fight back. And if the bully was bigger than his son, he should have taught his son to fight dirty or carry brass knuckles or a sap, and cause some serious pain. That failing, the father should have gone to the bully's father, if he had one, and threatened to kick his ass if he didn't control his son. And then make good on his threat.
 
#26
Jokerman said:
That failing, the father should have gone to the bully's father, if he had one, and threatened to kick his ass if he didn't control his son. And then make good on his threat.
The first to say this, apart from myself, & for that I applaud you. I think this is a logical, not to mention, effective way of managing this problem.
 
#27
Jokerman said:
That failing, the father should have gone to the bully's father, if he had one, and threatened to kick his ass if he didn't control his son. And then make good on his threat.
The father said that he didn't mean to kill, so those shots could have been a threat. Or maybe he's lying now to save his ass. But hindsight is always 20/20
 
#29
daddy took it way too far... instead, he should have jumped that bully together with his son - like doubleteam up on that bitch ! BAM BAMM JAB BUMM KNALL RATTAATATA
now THAT would have been G.
 

Butt Rubber

More arrogant than SicC
#31
2pacnbiggie said:
http://www.courttv.com/trials/blount/012105_ctv.html#continue

Trial set to start for man charged with killing his son's teenage bully


By Bo Susan Rosser
Court TV
ORLANDO, Fla. — Fed up with a teenage school bully who allegedly attacked his son, Clyde Blount gunned him down in a drive-by shooting, according to prosecutors.

Clyde Blount III is charged with second-degree murder in the death of 16-year-old Lonnie Hillery. His trial is expected to begin Monday in the Ninth Circuit Court in Orlando. If convicted, he faces a minimum of 25 years in prison.

Prosecutors say Blount, 41, killed Hillery minutes after speaking to a school vice principal about obtaining a restraining order against him.

Blount allegedly had met with the another vice principal of Apopka High School and asked how his son, Clyde Blount IV — aka C.J. — should handle any future attacks by Hillery. The classmates had clashed several times during the previous weekend, according to police reports.

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The vice principal advised C.J. to report to a teacher if Hillery accosted him again. After speaking to the Blounts, the school official met with Hillery and told him to stay away from his classmate.

Despite the warning, Hillery followed C.J. off the school bus on the afternoon of Feb. 17, 2004. He then repeatedly punched C.J. and kicked him after he fell to the ground, according to witnesses.

When the boy, reportedly bruised and crying, returned home and described the attack to his father, Blount grabbed his .38 caliber automatic and began searching for Hillery in his family's white minivan, prosecutors contend. His son rode along in the front passenger seat.

According to the state, as the van approached Hillery and several friends outside a Florida elementary school, Blount pointed his handgun out the window and fired several shots. The boys fled, but not before a bullet caught Hillery in the back and pierced his liver.

After his gun jammed, Blount told police, he stopped firing and he and his son returned to Hawthorne Village, the nearby apartment complex where they lived.

"I did not intend to shoot or kill him, just scare him," Blount later told investigators.

Four gun casings were later recovered by police on the floor of Blount's Aerostar van.

Meanwhile, Hillery's friends hailed a passing pickup truck and asked the driver for help. The driver raced Hillery to a nearby fire station, where he received CPR and was then transferred to the Orlando Regional Medical Center in an ambulance.

Before the victim died, he recounted the events to fire department personnel and said it was C.J.'s father who shot him. Hillery died at the hospital from internal bleeding, according to the medical examiner.

After several 911 calls from witnesses, police located and arrested Clyde Blount and his son.

Though Blount faces second-degree murder charges, the defense is expected to argue for a lesser charge of manslaughter. C.J., who had no criminal record, was not charged and no longer attends Apopka High School.

Prosecutors acknowledge that the victim instigated the fights between the two classmates, and Blount admits to shooting at Hillery.

School administrators and the school bus driver are expected to testify that Hillery initiated the feud. The bus driver told police that on the afternoon of the shooting, Hillery chased C.J. off the bus, even though he had been ordered to stay in his seat.

Police reports also support this theory. Blount called police days before the shooting to complain that Hillery had harassed C.J. and was now harassing C.J.'s 12-year-old cousin. After the call, C.J. confronted Hillery on his cousin's behalf and escalated the feud. The cousin will likely testify about this incident.

C.J. is expected to testify for both the prosecution and defense, although he told police at the time of his arrest that his father had fired several shots but did not hit anyone.

Blount is expected to take the stand and tell jurors why he was enraged enough to chase down his son's bully with a gun.

Jury selection begins Monday. The trial is being shown live on Court TV Extra.
DAYUMN, THIS NIGGA IS STR8 GANGSTA!@! YEAHHH!@# WESTSIIIIIIIIIIIIDE


that little motherfucker got what was coming to him
 
#34
Pops could have went to talk with the bullies parents first, if he had no parents, talk to the kid and if the kid still acts like a bully then he calls the cops
 

Butt Rubber

More arrogant than SicC
#35
M.C.Chillz said:
Pops could have went to talk with the bullies parents first, if he had no parents, talk to the kid and if the kid still acts like a bully then he calls the cops
okay Churchy, go back to your bible readings
 

Butt Rubber

More arrogant than SicC
#37
M.C.Chillz said:
what would you have done Bank Robber?
I wouldn't get myself into that situation to begin with. Pending on if the kid is bigger than me, I'd either fight him or not start shit to begin with.


Or I could just go Rambo on the motherfucker like this kids dad did and spend 25 years in jail
 
#39
I wouldn't get myself into that situation to begin with. Pending on if the kid is bigger than me, I'd either fight him or not start shit to begin with.


Or I could just go Rambo on the motherfucker like this kids dad did and spend 25 years in jail


How did the kid that was getting bullied get himself in that situation? And how will it do your kid any good if you are doing 25 to life for killing a minor? How will you father your child from a cell? I dont understand your logic.
 

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