Than we both have thought**
You are still thinking I made this thread out of some sick humor, which is wrong on a severely retarded level. This thread was meant to be serious, however no one perceived it as such.
You are still thinking I made this thread out of some sick humor, which is wrong on a severely retarded level. This thread was meant to be serious, however no one perceived it as such.
I took a shot at you, yes, but I took a shot at more than just you. You seem to be wanting to play the victim here and I, like apparently most everyone else, don't buy it. I called Duke a faggot, I jokingly called Kelli and Farzin fat, and I insulted most members' whole religions, including my own, but you have deemed yourself as "The Big Dog" on StreetHop and you think your name should be left out of those jokes. I disagree and therefore say what I say.
This is wayyyy off subject, but I think Axl Rose is the most talented musician in recent generations. He can sing, whistle, play guitar, play piano, play practically anything, and his voice has stayed magnificent for years. He is an incredible songwriter, has respect for the music (albeit not much respect for coworkers and past coworkers) and he is the epitome of what a rock star is. He whines, bitches, throws tantrums, behaves in the most unprofessional ways that would get you fired from most forms of employment (drunk on stage/duty) and he is hated for it. He is also loved for it. Every reason someone can think of to hate him, someone else loves him for it. He spoke on how much he liked Nirvana's music and of wanting to do a song with Kurt Cobain, Cobain dissed his band and his music calling them mainstream, Axl challenged him to a fight. LMAO. Rock fucking star. He is brilliant, he is insane, he is burnt out but he is a legend and quite possibly the most gifted artist of all time. Bret Michaels can suck his dickkk. Chinese Democracy was WORTH waiting fifteen years for, and if they come out with another album in fifteen more years, I wouldn't bitch about a delay.
^Chinese Democracy sucked
Cobain > Axl
Kurt was a better songwriter and a better musician than Axl.
However, Axl was a better vocalist (in terms of range), but I prefer Kurt's voice.
Democracy was incredible, I still listen to it in the car. The lyrics are spot on, the music is good, his voice is as good as ever.
Cobain got famous, got rich, got a nasty ass wife, couldn't handle the pressure and (allegedly) offed himself.
Also only someone who knows next to nothing about Courtney Love would dismiss her as a "nasty ass wife". Yeah, Courtney is a little unstable, but she wasn't any crazier or any nastier than Kurt. I've more or less studied both of them in depth as individuals as well as a couple, in case you're wondering what my opinion is based on. Courtney gets all the blame from a misogynistic male-dominated media (aka the Yoko syndrome).
For all their ups and downs (and EVERY relationship has them) the fact remains that they both cared very deeply for each other.
Anyone can make one good album and never be heard from again (See: Biggie and Ja Rule) that doesn't make them a rock star or better than a living legend. Slash is very good, and I respect him, but he was going to join fucking POISON and they didnt accept him, turned him down for CC Deville.
1) Nirvana made three (and arguably 4 including the unplugged set) AMAZING albums. Bleach, Nevermind and In Utero, and Kurt grew and matured as a songwriter with each subsequent album, with In Utero containing his best work. His work on these albums is actually more substantial than Axl's work with G'N'R - why? Because Kurt was the sole songwriter for the vast majority of Nirvana's songs.
Axl, on the other hand is virtually incapable of writing a song on his own. The genius of "Appetite" and the two "Use Your Illusion" albums was an equal effort between Axl, Slash, Duff, and most importantly, Izzy Stradlin.
"Chinese Democracy"'s best tracks were all co-writes. The title track was a co-write with drummer and songwriter Josh Freese, of A Perfect Circle and Devo - he also went on to work with NIN after being in GnR for a few years. Unsurprisingly, given the industrial nature of the song, "Better" was a co-write with longtime Marilyn Manson and NIN guitarist Robin Finck.
Credit where it's due - Axl can write a killer piano power ballad on his own (he had some formal piano training as a child), see "This I Love" from "Chinese Democracy" and "November Rain" from "Use Your Illusion". He's just not in Kurt's league as a songwriter.
2) Did you SERIOUSLY just say that Biggie made one good album and then was never heard from again? The guy made 3 stone-cold classic albums (Ready To Die, and both discs of Life After Death).
Ja Rule is a maybe, but I personally thought that "Rule 3.36" was a fairly solid album, and not a bad follow up to "Venni Vetti Vicci".
3) I don't see what Slash auditioning for Poison has to do with anything. Bret Michaels explicitly stated that Slash was looking for a dual guitarist situation and to be able to play long solo's, and so it was obvious that Poison wasn't the band for him. He also said that Slash clearly wasn't into the makeup and bleach blonde hair look either and so although they knew he was a good guitarist, both Bret and Slash knew that Slash was not the right person for Poison.