Hussein Fatal & The Twin Towers

[Preach]

lawl

so i don't understand how that line made the cut. i probably don't really understand it.

if you have no idea what i'm talking about, i'm talking about a line from fatal's verse in um dumpin. he goes "and coming through ____in' the black pound, when they put the twin towers up, pac, i'm knocking them back down" or something like that. due to the edit i'm having a lil trouble making out the first line but that's what i think he says.

anyway, isn't that sort of... bold?

 

[masta247]

um maybe he says he'll knock em for Pac. That's some kind of giving respect to Pac etc. that he'll do that much for Pac.

Or maybe he just wanna show that he's so gangsta terrorist

 

[shakuk2001]

it seems like the edited word is PACKIN but i could b wrong but it does make sense :thumb:

 

[masta247]

it seems like the edited word is PACKIN but i could b wrong but it does make sense :thumb:

why Packin lol.. It's not even something they'd edit

 

[Melted One]

lawl

anyway, isn't that sort of... bold?

It is extremely bold, but it seems like he is just trying to be controversial. Pac said many a bold things in his time and that has to be one of the reasons I love him. Living in NYC I can understand how insensitive the line is, but we never complained when they threated turn our "streets into Vietnam".

 

[Preach]

well yeah, but tupac's lyrics in the early nineties.. however controversial they were, i would like to think of this as a completely different scenario for many reasons. tupac was cursing and forcing, along with every other rapper i guess, black culture onto the mainstream audience. while that met a lot of governmental resistance, what tupac said in his lyrics wasn't exactly disrispectful to anyone but the people who would capitalize off of the situation. and is that really considered disrespect, really?

if you really want to be an ass about it (hey, i'm not an american so i don't really care but) you can say that fatal's line is straight disrespectful to all the people who died when the towers collapsed. i'm not saying that, but that's what somebody else could say.

i'm guessing it's supposed to be like a symbolic.. thing, a metaphor or some shit, but i don't understand it, so if that's the case, anyone who would like to extend their thoughts on that line, please go ahead.

Living in NYC I can understand how insensitive the line is, but we never complained when they threated turn our "streets into Vietnam".

lol i didn't even read your entire post before i made my reply, but i guess that's a good point. however, that is a clear metaphor meaning there will be war in the streets. what is hussein really talking about then, when he says he's gonna knock the towers back down when they go up?

and just to clear up, i'm not complaining, i'm basically just trying to understand why he would say something like that, and how it makes the cut when "german lugers" was cut from aeom. okay, 10 years ago, whatever.

 

[C-7]

just love that line.... best on the album is on repeat heheh

 

[DeeezNuuuts83]

so i don't understand how that line made the cut. i probably don't really understand it.

It's really bold, and I too am surprised that it didn't get edited for what it is. It strikes a sensitive nerve in Americans, but at the same time, it doesn't really target one group of people, like some other rap lyrics that I can think of off the top of my head that got edited in the past:

"Fuck you losers, while you fake jacks, I make maneuvers
Like Hitler, sticking up [Jews] with German [Lugers]"
- Method Man, "Got My Mind Made Up"

"I take seven [kids] from [Columbine], stand 'em all in line
Add an AK-47, a revolver, a nine"
- Eminem, "I'm Back"

Those lines in particular would make the respective artists sound like they're bashing on the Jewish community and the city of Columbine, respectively. I guess Fatal's line isn't really directed at anyone, and while it talks about a fucked up subject, it's not like people can say he's anti-American. So it's not like any one group will label him a hater. Controversy = attention = sales.

 

[SonOf2pac]

^bad publicity is GOOD publicity...

 

[MissingMakaveli]

Shit, he's Hussein Fatal< >Fatal Hussein = Saddam!!! He can boldly talk that shit!!!!

 

[Melted One]

Hell Amaru cut Napoleon's line

I got (Bin Laden) on the phone, the nigga's talking crazy, I don't who to blame him or (Bush) for killing babies.

It is quite surprising they would let Fatal say this.

 

[Preach]

It's really bold, and I too am surprised that it didn't get edited for what it is. It strikes a sensitive nerve in Americans, but at the same time, it doesn't really target one group of people, like some other rap lyrics that I can think of off the top of my head that got edited in the past:

"Fuck you losers, while you fake jacks, I make maneuvers
Like Hitler, sticking up [Jews] with German [Lugers]"
- Method Man, "Got My Mind Made Up"

"I take seven [kids] from [Columbine], stand 'em all in line
Add an AK-47, a revolver, a nine"
- Eminem, "I'm Back"

Those lines in particular would make the respective artists sound like they're bashing on the Jewish community and the city of Columbine, respectively. I guess Fatal's line isn't really directed at anyone, and while it talks about a fucked up subject, it's not like people can say he's anti-American. So it's not like any one group will label him a hater. Controversy = attention = sales.

good point :thumb:

 

[KAMIKAZI]

No matter what you make of it, like Rizzle said, the line doesn't really make any sense and has no meaning, it's not even a punchline like in Meth's case on Got My Mind Made Up, Fatal only said it to cause a stir.

 

[Preach]

No matter what you make of it, like Rizzle said, the line doesn't really make any sense and has no meaning, it's not even a punchline like in Meth's case on Got My Mind Made Up, Fatal only said it to cause a stir.

even so, it was a semi-cool line i thought. sorta made me go "oh" when i first heard it. but yeah, i guess it's just to stir shit.

 

[Preach]

why Packin lol.. It's not even something they'd edit

i'm just gonna throw a wild idea out there. i have no clue what the edit is but let's say a pistol weighs a pound.. (i dunno lol) in that case, the line could mean packing a black pistol, and then i guess it SORT of makes sense why they would edit it. does that sound possible at all lol?

 

[Preach]

okay, never mind, i guess not lol.


EDIT:
Preach (1:08:45 AM): you are so incredibly gay
Meyer Lansky (1:08:47 AM): yes

 

[NazihHawi]

IMO, it makes sense.. Fatal is targeting in his line those who were "politically" targeted by the Twin Towers incident, meaning the US government, "the man", the "system", etc.. It's like many other rappers bashing "Bush", and talkin' about Bin Laden, like Mos Def and Immortal Technique in their "Bin Laden" joint where they say:

Bin Laden didn't blow up the projects
It was you, nigga
Tell the truth, nigga
(Bush knocked down the towers)
Tell the truth, nigga
(Bush knocked down the towers)
Tell the truth, nigga]

Although Fatal's line is different, it's pretty much the same meaning.. That he's against those who were politically hurt by the Twin Towers knockin', and who were responsible for it in the 1st place.

I dont think it's insensitive.. Well maybe a lil.. But i'm sure he wasnt targeting the "people" or the "innocents" with this line..

 

[HipHopIsDead]

DEFINATLEY an attack at the government.

However the line isn't clear (judged by the controversy and misunderstanding) and can be deemed to be insentitive. although so is every other raper saying shit about killing others. Its sensitive to any victim of crime. similar principle.

 

[Ashur]

NazihHawi you have a good point, but just like you said "Fatal's line is different" and maybe he is targeting US goverment, maybe not.

Fatal's line is metaphor but as Rizzle, I can't understand what he tried to put in those words. Somebody got to ask Fatal to explain his line.

And knowing Americans, I mean how patriotic they are, I can't understand how censorship let the line stay.

 

[Butt Rubber]

It's really bold, and I too am surprised that it didn't get edited for what it is. It strikes a sensitive nerve in Americans, but at the same time, it doesn't really target one group of people, like some other rap lyrics that I can think of off the top of my head that got edited in the past:

"Fuck you losers, while you fake jacks, I make maneuvers
Like Hitler, sticking up [Jews] with German [Lugers]"
- Method Man, "Got My Mind Made Up"

"I take seven [kids] from [Columbine], stand 'em all in line
Add an AK-47, a revolver, a nine"
- Eminem, "I'm Back"

Those lines in particular would make the respective artists sound like they're bashing on the Jewish community and the city of Columbine, respectively. I guess Fatal's line isn't really directed at anyone, and while it talks about a fucked up subject, it's not like people can say he's anti-American. So it's not like any one group will label him a hater. Controversy = attention = sales.

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