My advice to all people who collect pac...

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KFatal

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My advise to all people who collect pac...

be on the lookout for "Post Pics Of Your Most Valuable 2Pac Items Pt.2" coming soon ;)
 

Dante

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KFatal said:
be on the lookout for "Post Pics Of Your Most Valuable 2Pac Items Pt.2" coming soon ;)
i kind of think they're silly. why?

well consider why you collect. i collect because it's something that i individually enjoy. i don't do it for any kind of gratification from anyone else, so likewise i think it's kind of silly to post pictures to show off. it's like when people brought things in for show and tell that were obviously expensive, not because they meant anything, but just to trump the trailer kids.

i could rattle off this and that, and post 100 clips of songs you guys will never hear, but really at the end of the day that makes me more of a sucker than a cool guy. ...that is unless i'm willing to share what information i have about items x, y, and z and how to get them, what price, etc.

...really, at the end of the day anyone can plunk down $100 and get something uncommon. knowledge is more valuable than the physical.
 

KFatal

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Dante said:
well consider why you collect. i collect because it's something that i individually enjoy. i don't do it for any kind of gratification from anyone else
same

youre right, fuck it then.. btw if i was to make that thread it would only be retail shit... but i aint making it...
 
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How can someone justify in their own mind paying any amount of money for any Tupac item over the original retail asking price?

To me, that shit is just stupid. What do you think the stuff is going to be worth one day?

Shit like this is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. There isnt a priceguide for Tupac items.

I bet half of you havent even listened to the material you own. HAHA U think its worth more to keep it in a pretty package than the message itself that is spoken by Pac.

And let me ask one more thing, your "Pac collection"; do you think it is worth "more" because he is dead? Outise of sentimental value, it isnt worth shit, even if he was dead.

If that is the case you need to be listening to the albums instead worshipping them, but cuz u can clearly hear that Pac is alive in each song after All Eyes on Me.:woah:

If u have said this in your lifetime; "Dude, i own the limited edition, promo proxy, EP european rare version , bside of Above the Rim" u need to get a grip. Just listen to the music man.
 

Dante

Meyer & Dante Best Friends4eva
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AMothaFuckinMac said:
How can someone justify in their own mind paying any amount of money for any Tupac item over the original retail asking price?

To me, that shit is just stupid. What do you think the stuff is going to be worth one day?

Shit like this is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. There isnt a priceguide for Tupac items.

I bet half of you havent even listened to the material you own. HAHA U think its worth more to keep it in a pretty package than the message itself that is spoken by Pac.

And let me ask one more thing, your "Pac collection"; do you think it is worth "more" because he is dead? Outise of sentimental value, it isnt worth shit, even if he was dead.

If that is the case you need to be listening to the albums instead worshipping them, but cuz u can clearly hear that Pac is alive in each song after All Eyes on Me.:woah:

If u have said this in your lifetime; "Dude, i own the limited edition, promo proxy, EP european rare version , bside of Above the Rim" u need to get a grip. Just listen to the music man.
spoken like someone without a clue.

in 1995 i bought about 20 keep ya head up cd singles for $4.99 each. in 2005 i sold them for about $80 each. need i say more?

the first promo cd, which is if my homie calls radio mix, would fetch me over $400 on ebay if i sold it tomorrow.

need i continue?

besides, who are you to criticize someone who rips the cd and then re-seals it (which i do)? are you so short sighted that you need to validate your purchase by staring at the pretty little pictures? come on man, if you don't know about something don't throw salt.
 
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man im just saying that "collecting" pac shit is a crazy concept.
Just listen to the music and enjoy it, like the original poster presented to you all, just enjoy the music, it aint about how much you could 'possibly' make on a re-sale, feel me?

Thats like spiitin in Pac face. I respect everyones opinion, but can you grasp mine?
 
#28
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my advice is your fuckin 17 years old, you shouldnt be spending 3 gs your money on this stuff.
 

Dante

Meyer & Dante Best Friends4eva
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AMothaFuckinMac said:
man im just saying that "collecting" pac shit is a crazy concept.
Just listen to the music and enjoy it, like the original poster presented to you all, just enjoy the music, it aint about how much you could 'possibly' make on a re-sale, feel me?

Thats like spiitin in Pac face. I respect everyones opinion, but can you grasp mine?
gee you're right. actually BUYING all the shit that pac put out is like spitting in his face.

obviously i enjoy the music or i wouldn't be collecting. this isn't some chicken vs egg mystery here, and i damn sure wouldn't spend what i spend juts to package up my purchases and never listen to them.

all i can say to your post is duh.
 
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AMothaFuckinMac said:
How can someone justify in their own mind paying any amount of money for any Tupac item over the original retail asking price?

To me, that shit is just stupid. What do you think the stuff is going to be worth one day?

Shit like this is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. There isnt a priceguide for Tupac items.

And let me ask one more thing, your "Pac collection"; do you think it is worth "more" because he is dead? Outise of sentimental value, it isnt worth shit, even if he was dead.

If u have said this in your lifetime; "Dude, i own the limited edition, promo proxy, EP european rare version , bside of Above the Rim" u need to get a grip. Just listen to the music man.
I have to agree and I've said something similar to it before. None of the collectors understood probably because they're sitting there gettin money on trades and loving themselves. IMO, you're only exploiting a Dead Man's music and art only to fulfill an obsession(for some). Yeah you get cash, but what the Mac said Shit like this is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. There isnt a priceguide for Tupac items. <-----One day, someone just slap a price tag on a song "valued" at $500 and be leaked and worth NOTHING in a matter of minutes. There is no true value to something 'rare' which don't belong to you. I wonder what would happen if ppl got reported for selling copyrighted material that is 'stolen'?? Because it sure as hell ain't retail and had to come from somewhere...

Dante said:
sometimes you HAVE to buy quick - since some things you think are common now turn very rare the next week. that grand imperial record was 10 bucks, and now sells for almost 100. sprite vinyl was 35 and now 200.
I think that's because SOME collectors are so full of shit, they have to factor in the rising cost for gas:p
 

Dante

Meyer & Dante Best Friends4eva
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RichieRich69 said:
I have to agree and I've said something similar to it before. None of the collectors understood probably because they're sitting there gettin money on trades and loving themselves. IMO, you're only exploiting a Dead Man's music and art only to fulfill an obsession(for some).
you know, it's funny because i have a pm sitting in my inbox from you trying to buy an unleaked song from me. hypocrite much?

RichieRich69 said:
Yeah you get cash, but what the Mac said Shit like this is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. There isnt a priceguide for Tupac items.
in fact there is. anyone who actually buys stuff would quickly see that the prices for items such as singles and promos is defined by the buyer base. just because you cannot afford $300 for a if my homie calls promo cd doesn't make it worth less than that. because people (like myself for example) are willing to pay top dollar for top shelf items, they stay valuable. price trending predicts what you will pay for an item. make a post, ask someone else (i get 10 questions daily inquiring the value of items x, y, and z), or otherwise go get the information as to how much something is worth. no one is going to hold your hand and make some ridiculous "guide" for a blind man.
RichieRich69 said:
One day, someone just slap a price tag on a song "valued" at $500 and be leaked and worth NOTHING in a matter of minutes. There is no true value to something 'rare' which don't belong to you. I wonder what would happen if ppl got reported for selling copyrighted material that is 'stolen'?? Because it sure as hell ain't retail and had to come from somewhere...
again you are incorrect. the value of an unleaked song obviously drops after it is posted for free on the internet (a resounding DUH is heard globally at this comment), but if only a half dozen people have it worldwide, then the value remains high. the only shit that leaks is shit that was either a) sold to multiple parties in a mass effort to gain as much money as possible, or b) MEANT to leak out by intentional efforts. likewise, you are a moron if you made this post while you have any single non-retail og on your computer, because that qualifies you instantly as a rebel-rouser who is a hyprcrite.

i'd suggest not concerning yourself with what people purchase with their own money. additionally, tracks are seldom "stolen" as you indicate. in fact, a good portion of what i have came directly from the people who made them. what have you got to say about that?
 
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Dante said:
you know, it's funny because i have a pm sitting in my inbox from you trying to buy an unleaked song from me. hypocrite much?
Yes I did ask, BUT that's where you are wrong. I first asked IF you had it and how much will it go for. Then you told me to name a price and I obviously low balled. My intentions werent to buy it anyway since I have $5000+ sitting in my account going towards a turbo for my car...
Would I buy something if its cheap? Yeah why not. But when someone gets greedy, we're not talking a few dollars, we're talking not even 150 CD's (since you said $1500 was too cheap), but more. Its ridiculous. You think the artist would be happy if you took that much in sales from him to several ppl, plus the ppl you sold it too selling it elsewhere?

In all, I'm still right. Realistically, there IS NO TRUE VALUE. Trends die eventually.

The fact that a song was given to you and you go out and sell it is still exploiting
 

Diaz

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RichieRich69 said:
Yes I did ask, BUT that's where you are wrong. I first asked IF you had it and how much will it go for. Then you told me to name a price and I obviously low balled. My intentions werent to buy it anyway since I have $5000+ sitting in my account going towards a turbo for my car...
Would I buy something if its cheap? Yeah why not. But when someone gets greedy, we're not talking a few dollars, we're talking not even 150 CD's (since you said $1500 was too cheap), but more. You think the artist would be happy if you took that much in sales from him to several ppl, plus the ppl you sold it too selling it elsewhere?

In all, I'm still right. Realistically, there IS NO TRUE VALUE

The fact that a song was given to you and you go out and sell it is still exploiting
Check the sig out... "In search For Till My Dyin Day 192kbps or Dat rip".

That isn't a retail song is it?
 

Dante

Meyer & Dante Best Friends4eva
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RichieRich69 said:
The fact that a song was given to you and you go out and sell it is still exploiting
there you go again with your wild assumptions.

very few songs i have received i have gotten for free. almost everything comes at a cost, and that cost helps ensure that i will not immediately go post something that is not meant to be everywhere on the internet.

i am not the 2pac og k-mart. you can't just pm me and say what's $30 buy me (what you did lol - fyi, i wipe my ass with twenty dollar bills) because it doesn't work like that.

if i were to sell my dyin day, which you offered me money for, then i would not have a problem doing so because the song was purchased by a close friend of mine who happened to see it on a record. i ripped the record. it's not like that song was "stolen" from amaru by me or anyone else to my knowledge.

what i think really happened here is that you offered me chump change, and when i told you that you were missing a couple zeros you got pissy and took on this holier than thou routine. well i'll say it again, you can't speak unless you have never downloaded, burned, or listened to an og version that's not one of the handful that have been released.

you can't have your cake (calling me a thief) and eat it too (bumping ghetto gospel og).
 

Dante

Meyer & Dante Best Friends4eva
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Diaz said:
Check the sig out... "In search For Till My Dyin Day 192kbps or Dat rip".

That isn't a retail song is it?
his sig also implies that his own posts, as well as those below his are stupid.
 
#36
i won't waste my money on material things that won't do anything for me. sure 2pac is great and all, but i won't do more then by his retail cds and movies.
 
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Once again, I made an offer to find out how much it was worth, reason why I asked in the VERY FIRST PM. And since when did I get pissy? I've posted something like this before. In any case I don't lose, you know why? As I said, I got better material things to spend it on. And my sig has nothing to do with this topic. Thanks for pointing it out. And I'm not an OG collector so (Bumping ____insert rare song here____) doesnt make me jealous one bit. I pop in, discuss a few things, and leave. I dont live here
 

KFatal

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pm i got yesterday...

RichieRich69 : Since you paid 3G's on collectables and shit, do you have My Dyin Day in CDQ?? If so, how much are you willing to sell it for?

Me: 20 gs. money order only. holler if youre interested. thanks
 
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