Pac The Producer

#23
2Pac - 2Pacalypse Now
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(i don't know who produced each track, but) People involved in production: 2Pac , Big D The Impossible , Jeremy , Live Squad , Pee-Wee , Raw Fusion , Shock G
01 Young Black Male (2:35)
02 Trapped (4:44)
Producer - Underground Railroad, The
03 Soulja's Story (5:05)
04 I Don't Give A Fuck (4:20)
05 Violent (6:26)
06 Words Of Wisdom (4:54)
07 Something Wicked (2:28)
08 Crooked Ass Nigga (4:17)
09 If My Homie Calls (4:18)
10 Brenda's Got A Baby (3:55)
Producer - Underground Railroad, The
11 Tha' Lunatic (3:29)
12 Rebel Of The Underground (3:17)
13 Part Time Mutha (5:14)


2Pac - Strictly 4 My N.I.G.G.A.Z.
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01 Holler If Ya Hear Me (4:38)
Producer - Stretch
Co-producer - 2Pac
02 Pac's Theme (Interlude) (1:56)
Producer - Underground Railroad, The
Co-producer - 2Pac
03 Point The Finga (4:26)
Producer - Big D The Impossible
Co-producer - 2Pac
04 Something 2 Die 4 (Interlude) (2:43)
Producer - Big D The Impossible
Co-producer - 2Pac
05 Last Wordz (3:37)
Producer - Bobby 'Bobcat' Ervin
Co-producer - 2Pac
06 Souljah's Revenge (3:16)
Producer - Bobby 'Bobcat' Ervin
Co-producer - 2Pac
07 Peep Game (4:28)
Producer - Bobby 'Bobcat' Ervin
Co-producer - 2Pac
08 Strugglin' (3:34)
Producer - Live Squad
Co-producer - 2Pac
09 Guess Who's Back (3:07)
Producer - Akshun , Special Ed
Co-producer - 2Pac
10 Representin' 93 (3:34)
Producer - Truman Jefferson
Co-producer - 2Pac
11 Keep Ya Head Up (4:22)
Producer - DJ Daryl
Co-producer - 2Pac
12 Strictly 4 My N.I.G.G.A.Z. (5:55)
Producer - Lay Law
Co-producer - 2Pac
13 The Streets R Deathrow (3:27)
Producer - Stretch
Co-producer - 2Pac
14 I Get Around (4:19)
Producer - D-Flow Production Squad
Co-producer - 2Pac
15 Papa'z Song (5:26)
Producer - Big D The Impossible
Co-producer - 2Pac
16 5 Deadly Venomz (5:14)
Producer - Stretch
Co-producer - 2Pac


2Pac - Me Against The World
----------------------------
01 Intro (1:39)
Co-producer - Jill Rose
Producer - Tony Pizarro
02 If I Die 2Nite (4:02)
Producer - Easy Mo Bee
03 Me Against The World (4:39)
Producer - Soulshock & Karlin
04 So Many Tears (3:59)
Producer - D-Flizno Production Squad
05 Temptations (5:00)
Producer - Easy Mo Bee
06 Young Niggaz (4:52)
Producer - Le-Morrious 'Funky Drummer' Tyler , Moe ZMD
07 Heavy In The Game (4:22)
Producer - Mike Mosley , Sam Bostic
08 Lords Knows (4:30)
Co-producer - Moe ZMD , Tony Pizarro
Producer - Brian G
09 Dear Mama (4:38)
Co-producer - DF Master Tee , Moses (3)
Producer - Tony Pizarro
10 It Ain't Easy (4:53)
Producer - Tony Pizarro
11 Can U Get Away (5:44)
Producer - Mike Mosley
12 Old School (4:39)
Co-producer - Ezi Cut , Jay B
Producer - Soulshock
13 Fuck The World (4:12)
Producer - Shock G
14 Death Around The Corner (4:06)
Producer - Johnny J
15 Outlaw (4:31)
Producer - Moe ZMD


2Pac - All Eyez On Me
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1-01 Ambitionz Az A Ridah (4:39)
Producer - Dat Nigga Daz
1-02 All Bout U (4:37)
Producer - 2Pac , Johnny J
1-03 Skandalouz (4:09)
Producer - Daz Dillinger
1-04 Got My Mind Made Up (5:13)
Producer - Daz Dillinger
1-05 How Do U Want It (4:47)
Producer - Johnny J
1-06 2 Of Amerikaz Most Wanted (4:07)
Producer - Daz Dillinger
1-07 No More Pain (6:14)
Producer - DeVante Swing
1-08 Heartz Of Men (4:43)
Producer - David Blake
1-09 Life Goes On (5:02)
Producer - Johnny J
1-10 Only God Can Judge Me (4:57)
Producer - Doug Rasheed
1-11 Tradin War Stories (5:29)
Producer - Mike Mosley , Rick Rock
1-12 California Love (Remix) (6:25)
Producer - Dr. Dre
1-13 I Ain't Mad At Cha (4:53)
Producer - Daz Dillinger
1-14 What'z Ya Phone # (5:10)
Producer - 2Pac , Johnny J
2-01 Can't C Me (5:30)
Producer - Dr. Dre
2-02 Shorty Wanna Be A Thug (3:51)
Producer - Johnny J
2-03 Holla At Me (4:56)
Producer - Bobby 'Bobcat' Ervin
2-04 Wonda Why They Call U Bytch (4:19)
Producer - 2Pac , Johnny J
2-05 When We Ride (5:09)
Producer - DJ Pooh
2-06 Thug Passion (5:08)
Producer - 2Pac , Johnny J
2-07 Picture Me Rollin' (5:15)
Producer - Johnny J
2-08 Check Out Time (4:39)
Producer - 2Pac , Johnny J
2-09 Ratha Be Ya Nigga (4:14)
Producer - Doug Rasheed
2-10 All Eyez On Me (5:08)
Producer - Johnny J
2-11 Run Tha Streetz (5:17)
Producer - 2Pac , Johnny J
2-12 Ain't Hard 2 Find (4:29)
Producer - Mike Mosley , Rick Rock
2-13 Heaven Ain't Hard 2 Find (3:58)
Producer - QD III


Makaveli - The Don Killuminati (The 7 Day Theory)
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01 Bomb First (My Second Reply) (4:56)
Producer - Darryl Harper
02 Hail Mary (5:09)
Producer - Hurt-M-Badd
03 Toss It Up (5:06)
Producer - Dametrius Ship , Reggie Moore
04 To Live & Die In LA (4:33)
Producer - QD III
05 Blasphemy (4:38)
Producer - Hurt-M-Badd
06 Life As An Outlaw (4:54)
Producer - Darryl Harper , Makaveli
07 Just Like Daddy (5:08)
Producer - Hurt-M-Badd
08 Krazy (5:15)
Producer - Darryl Harper
09 White Man'z World (5:39)
Producer - Darryl Harper
10 Me And My Girlfriend (5:08)
Producer - Darryl Harper , Hurt-M-Badd , Makaveli
11 Hold Ya Head (3:58)
Producer - Hurt-M-Badd
12 Against All Odds (4:37)
Co-producer - Makaveli
Producer - Hurt-M-Badd


2Pac - R U Still Down? [Remember Me]
-------------------------------------
1-01 Redemption
Producer - We Got Kidz
1-02 Open Fire
Producer - Akshun
1-03 R U Still Down? (Remember Me)
Producer - Tony Pizarro
1-04 Hellrazor
Producer - QD III
1-05 Thug Style
Producer - We Got Kidz
1-06 Where Do We Go From Here (Interlude)
Producer - Tony Pizarro
1-07 I Wonder If Heaven Got A Ghetto
Producer - Soulshock & Karlin
1-08 Nothing To Lose
Producer - Live Squad
1-09 I'm Gettin Money
Producer - Mike Mosley
1-10 Lie To Kick It
Producer - Warren G
1-11 Fuck All Y'all
Producer - We Got Kidz
1-12 Let Them Thangs Go
Producer - We Got Kidz
1-13 Definition Of A Thug Nigga
Producer - Warren G
2-01 Ready 4 Whatever
Producer - Johnny J
2-02 When I Get Free
Co-producer - Rickey Rouse
Producer - We Got Kidz
2-03 Hold On Be Strong
Producer - Choo
2-04 I'm Losin It
Producer - Tony Pizarro
2-05 Fake Ass Bitches
Producer - Johnny J
2-06 Do For Love
Producer - Soulshock & Karlin
2-07 Enemies With Me
Producer - We Got Kidz
2-08 Nothin But Love
Producer - DJ Daryl
2-09 16 On Death Row
Producer - ?
2-10 I Wonder If Heaven Got A Ghetto (Hip-Hop Version)
Producer - Soulshock & Karlin
2-11 When I Get Free II
Producer - Chris Rosser , Conrad Rosser
2-12 Black Starry Night (Interlude)
Producer - DJ Daryl
2-13 Only Fear Of Death
Producer - Live Squad


2Pac - Greatest Hits
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1-01 Keep Ya Head Up
Producer - DJ Daryl
1-02 2 Of Amerikaz Most Wanted
Producer - Daz Dillinger
1-03 Temptations
Producer - Easy Mo Bee
1-04 God Bless The Dead
Producer - ?
1-05 Hail Mary
Producer - Hurt-M-Badd
1-06 Me Against The World
Producer - Soulshock & Karlin
1-07 How Do U Want It
Producer - Johnny J
1-08 So Many Tears
Producer - D-Flizno Production Squad
1-09 Unconditional Love
Producer - Johnny J
1-10 Trapped
Producer - Underground Railroad, The
1-11 Life Goes On
Producer - Johnny J
1-12 Hit 'Em Up
Producer - Johnny J
2-01 Troublesome 96'
Producer - Johnny J
2-02 Brenda's Got A Baby
Producer - Underground Railroad, The
2-03 I Ain't Mad At Cha
Producer - Dat Nigga Daz
2-04 I Get Around
Producer - D-Flow Production Squad
2-05 Changes
Producer - 2Pac
2-06 California Love (Original Version)
Producer - Dr. Dre
2-07 Picture Me Rollin'
Producer - Johnny J
2-08 How Long Will They Mourn Me?
Producer - Nate Dogg , Warren G
2-09 Toss It Up
Producer - Reggie Moore
2-10 Dear Mama
Producer - Tony Pizarro
2-11 All About U
Producer - 2Pac , Johnny J
2-12 To Live & Die In L.A.
Producer - QD III
2-13 Heartz Of Men
Producer - David Blake


2Pac & The Outlawz - Still I Rise
---------------------------------
01 Letter To The President (5:59)
Producer - QD III
02 Still I Rise (4:13)
Producer - Johnny J
03 Secretz Of War (4:12)
Producer - Johnny J
04 Baby Don't Cry (Keep Ya Head Up) (4:19)
Producer - 2Pac , Soulshock & Karlin
05 As The World Turns (5:06)
Producer - Darryl Harper
06 Black Jesuz (4:24)
Producer - 2Pac , L Rock Ya
07 Homeboyz (3:38)
Producer - Daz Dillinger
08 Hell 4 A Hustler (5:52)
Producer - Damon Thomas
09 High Speed (5:59)
Producer - Darryl Harper
10 The Good Die Young (5:42)
Producer - Darryl Harper
11 Killuminati (4:02)
Producer - Tony Pizarro
12 Teardrops And Closed Caskets (5:05)
Producer - QD III
13 Tattoo Tears (5:07)
Producer - Kurupt
14 U Can Be Touched (5:59)
Producer - Johnny J
15 Y'All Don't Know Us (4:53)
Producer - Quimmy Quim , Reef


2Pac - Until The End Of Time
----------------------------
1-01 Ballad Of A Dead Soulja
Producer - Johnny J
1-02 Fuck Friendz
Producer - QD III
1-03 Lil' Homies
Producer - Johnny J
1-04 Let Em Have It
Producer - L.T. Hutton
1-05 Good Life
Producer - Mike Mosley
1-06 Letter 2 My Unborn
Co-producer - Franky "Nitty" Pimental
Producer - Johnny J
1-07 Breathin'
Producer - Johnny J
1-08 Happy Home
Producer - Johnny J
1-09 All Out
Producer - Big Simon Says
1-10 Fuckin' With The Wrong Nigga
Producer - Hurt-M-Badd
1-11 Thug N U Thug N Me (Remix)
Producer - Johnny J
1-12 Everything They Owe
Producer - Johnny J
1-13 Until The End Of Time
Co-producer - Franky "Nitty" Pimental
Producer - Johnny J
1-14 M.O.B.
Producer - Kurt Couthan
1-15 World Wide Mob Figgaz
Producer - Johnny J
2-01 Big Syke Interlude
Producer - Cold 187um
2-02 My Closest Roaddogz
Producer - Johnny J
2-03 Niggaz Nature (Remix)
Producer - QD III
2-04 When Thugz Cry
Producer - Johnny J
2-05 U Don't Have To Worry
Producer - QD III
2-06 This Ain't Livin'
Producer - Johnny J
2-07 Why U Turn On Me
Producer - 2Pac
2-08 Last Ones Left
Producer - Johnny J
2-09 Thug N U Thug N Me
Producer - Johnny J
2-10 Words 2 My First Born
Producer - DJ Quik
2-11 Let Em Have It (Remix)
Producer - L.T. Hutton
2-12 Runnin' On E
Producer - 2Pac
2-13 When I Get Free
Producer - Johnny J
2-14 Until The End Of Time (RP Remix)
Co-producer - Franky "Nitty" Pimental , Jamel Edgerton
Producer - Johnny J (2)


2Pac - Better Dayz
------------------
1-01 Intro
Producer - 7 Aurelius
1-02 Still Ballin' (Nitty Remix)
Producer - Franky "Nitty" Pimental
1-03 When We Ride On Our Enemies (Briss Remix)
Producer - Briss
1-04 Changed Man (Jazze Pha Remix)
Producer - Jazze Pha
1-05 Fuck 'Em All
Producer - Johnny J (2)
1-06 Never B Peace (Nitty Remix)
Producer - Franky "Nitty" Pimental
1-07 Mama's Just A Little Girl (KP Remix)
Producer - KP
1-08 Street Fame (Briss Remix)
Producer - Briss
1-09 Whatcha Gonna Do
Producer - E.D.I.
1-10 Fair Xchange (Jazze Pha Remix)
Producer - Jazze Pha
1-11 Late Night
Producer - DJ Quik
1-12 Ghetto Star
Producer - GO Twice
1-13 Thugz Mansion (Nas Acoustic)
Producer - Claudio Cueni , Michael Herring
2-01 My Block (Nitty Remix)
Producer - Franky "Nitty" Pimental
2-02 Thugz Mansion (7 Remix)
Producer - 7 Aurelius
2-03 Never Call U Bitch Again
Producer - Johnny J
2-04 Better Dayz
Producer - Johnny J
2-05 U Can Call (Jazze Pha Remix)
Producer - Jazze Pha
2-06 Military Minds
Producer - Darryl Harper
2-07 Fame
Producer - ?
2-08 Fair Xchange (Mya Remix)
Producer - Troy Johnson
2-09 Catchin' Feelins
Producer - E.D.I.
2-10 There U Go
Producer - Johnny J
2-11 This Life I Lead
Producer - Johnny J
2-12 Who Do U Believe In
Producer - Johnny J
2-13 They Don't Give A Fuck About Us
Producer - Johnny J


2Pac - Resurrection (Music From The Motion Picture)
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01 Intro (0:05)
02 Ghost (4:17)
Producer - DJ Pooh , Eminem
03 One Day At A Time (Em's Version) (3:44)
Producer - Hen-Gee
04 Death Around The Corner (4:07)
Producer - Johnny J
05 Secrects Of War (4:13)
Producer - Johnny J
06 Runnin' (Dying To Live) (3:51)
Producer - Easy Mo Bee , Eminem
07 Holler If Ya' Hear Me (4:38)
Producer - Stretch
08 Starin' Through My Rearview (5:11)
Co-producer - Hurt-M-Badd
Producer - Makaveli
09 Bury Me A G (4:59)
Producer - Thug Nation
10 Same Song (3:57)
Producer - Digital Underground
11 Panther Power (4:36)
Producer - Chopmaster J , Strictly Dope
12 Str8 Ballin' (5:04)
Producer - Easy Mo Bee
13 Rebel Of The Underground (3:16)
Producer - Shock G
14 The Realist Killaz (2:58)
Producer - Red Spyda


2Pac - Loyal To The Game
-------------------------
01 Soldier Like Me (Return Of The Soulja) (3:51)
Producer - Eminem
02 The Uppercut (3:50)
Producer - Eminem
03 Out On Bail (3:55)
Producer - Eminem
04 Ghetto Gospel (3:58)
Producer - Eminem
05 Black Cotton (5:03)
Producer - Eminem
06 Loyal To The Game (3:24)
Producer - Eminem
07 Thugs Get Lonely Too (4:48)
Producer - Eminem
08 N.I.G.G.A (Never Ignorant About Getting Goals Accomplished) (3:03)
Producer - Eminem
09 Who Do You Love? (3:29)
Producer - Eminem
10 A Crooked Nigga Too (2:55)
Producer - Eminem
11 Don't You Trust Me? (4:56)
Producer - Eminem
12 Hennessey (3:28)
Producer - Eminem
13 Thug 4 Life (3:04)
Producer - Eminem
14 Po Nigga Blues (Scott Storch Remix) (3:40)
Producer - Scott Storch
15 Hennessey (Red Spyda Remix) (3:18)
Producer - Red Spyda
16 A Crooked Nigga Too (Raphael Saadiq Remix) (4:03)
Producer - Raphael Saadiq
17 Loyal To The Game (DJ Quik Remix) (4:21)
Producer - DJ Quik
 
#24
KAMIKAZI said:
:):thumb:

16 On Deathrow OG
Baby Dont Cry OG
Black Jesuz OG
Dayz Of A Kriminal
Dont Fall Asleep
First 2 Bomb OG
Penitentiary Bound
Runnin On E
Soldier Like Me OG
Under Pressure
Untouchable
Why U Turn On Me OG

Co-Produced:

Against All Odds
All About U
Bomb First
Check Out Time
Definition Of A Thug Nigga
Hit Em Up
Life Of An Outlaw
Made Niggaz
Me and My Girlfriend
Nothin But Love
Nothin To Lose
R U Still Down
Run The Streetz
Shorty Wanna Be A Thug
Starin Thru My Rearview
The Uppercut
Thug Passion
Whats Ya Phone #
Where Do We Go From Here
Who Do U Luv OG
Wonda Why They Call U Bitch

I've had a longer and better list before, but the board got hacked so its gone.
Im pretty sure he produced the majority of Me and My Girlfriend, which IMO, is easily his sickest beat ever.....and one of the sickest beats ever PERIOD.
 
#34
critikaldesignz said:
2Pac - 2Pacalypse Now
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(i don't know who produced each track, but) People involved in production: 2Pac , Big D The Impossible , Jeremy , Live Squad , Pee-Wee , Raw Fusion , Shock G
01 Young Black Male (2:35)
02 Trapped (4:44)
Producer - Underground Railroad, The
03 Soulja's Story (5:05)
04 I Don't Give A Fuck (4:20)
05 Violent (6:26)
06 Words Of Wisdom (4:54)
07 Something Wicked (2:28)
08 Crooked Ass Nigga (4:17)
09 If My Homie Calls (4:18)
10 Brenda's Got A Baby (3:55)
Producer - Underground Railroad, The
11 Tha' Lunatic (3:29)
12 Rebel Of The Underground (3:17)
13 Part Time Mutha (5:14)....
...
REPPPED!
 
#36
Yeah, it's true. For yall who don't know. 2Pac produced a number of tracks during his music career. Here is a list of songs he produced and co-produced.

**All Eyez On Me:
-All About U (produced by Johnny J & 2Pac for Klockwork Entertainment)
-What'z Ya Phone Number (produced by Johnny J & 2Pac)
-Wonda Why They Call U Bytch(produced by Johnny J & 2Pac)
-Thug Passion (produced by Johnny J & 2Pac)
-Check Out Time (produced by Johnny J & 2Pac)
-Run tha Streetz (produced by Johnny J & 2Pac)
*Co-Producer of ALBUM

**Makaveli: The Don Kulluminati: The 7 Day Theory
-Life of an Outlaw (produced by Makaveli & Darryl 'Big D' Harper)
-Me and My Girlfriend( produced by Makaveli, Tyrone Wrice, Big D)
-Against All Odds (produced by Tyrone 'Hurt-m-Badd' Wrice, & Makaveli)

**R U Still Down:
-R U Still Down (produced by Tony Pizarro & 2Pac for Thug Music)
-Where Do We Go From Here(interlude) (produced by Tony Pizarro & 2Pac for Thug Music)
-Nothing To Lose (produced by 2Pac for Thug Music & Live Squad)
-Definition of a Thug Nigga (produced by 2Pac for Thug Music & Warren G)
-Nothin But Love (produced by DJ Daryl & 2Pac for Thug Music)
-16 on Deathrow (produced by 2Pac for Thug Music)

**Still I Rise
-Baby Don't Cry (Keep Your Heah Up II) (produced by 2Pac and Soulshock & Karlin for Soulpower Productions)
-Black Jesuz (produced by Tupac and L Rock Ya for Nodd Factors)

**Until The End of Time
-Why U Turn On Me (produced by 2Pac)
-Runnin On E (produced by 2Pac)

**Loyal To The Game
-Soldier Like Me (produced by 2Pac)
-The Uppercut (produced by 2Pac and Randy "Stretch" Walker)
-Who Do You Love? (produced by 2Pac and Randy "Stretch" Walker)

Also on Jon B's "Cool Relax"
-Are U Still Down (produced by 2Pac Shakur; co-produced by Johnny J)

Additional Info:
Jon Peters ~ Q: As far as the production of the song and that sort of thing, how was Tupac as a producer or a co-producer?

Johnny J ~ A: Well you know, I'm the producer, and, ? co-produce with me, just like I said, he was the lyrical side so, it was unbelievable man, like I said me and him were just tight dope arrangers. He knew how to arrange lyrics, I know how to arrange music, so, like I said, when I dropped the beats he knew exactly what to drop on the words. And that's something I can say that, made me happy, I didn't feel like I was wasting my music on the wack ass lyrics or whatever, and he came with subjects that made sense, you know what I mean. I mean he mixed a whole bunch of subjects into one song. Cause Pac wouldn't stay with one thing sometimes he would talk about sex, gangs this that, thugs, whatever, the streets, what's going on, all in one cut. It's like if you listen to how do you want it he doesn't stay on one thing, he talks about a whole bunch of things. (Right). So, that's one thing that was dope about him man, you never knew what would come out that man's mouth man. And that's what was tight, so. Like I said, we put it down together.

Jon Peters ~ Q: Is there something that you can tell us about Tupac, or something that he told you, that most Tupac fans don't know.

Johnny J ~ A: Ah man, oh my God, there's so much dude. For one thing dude a lot of people may not know that it shows on the song How Do U Want It, it says produced by Johnny J and you see produced by Johnny J and Tupac for NonStop Productions when we did the song HitEmUp. But one thing that a lot of people didn't know is that me and him were going to form our own production company, which was me and him. And we were going to do our thing from R&B, to Pop music, to you name it man, we were even looking forward to getting down with Alanis Morrisette, definitely trying to get down with Mary J. Blidge, and there was a whole bunch of stuff about to go down. And this is not long before he died, I mean there was artists that we were trying to go with, to lock up with that you just wouldn't even believe. Even if it was country, we were going to go for it, we were going to do it all. One thing that a lot of people didn't know is that we were getting ready to form our own production company, which was called NonStop Productions. That's a name that I came up with, cause Pac was like Johnny, c'mon man, come up with a production name and lets just form our own thing. I was like, alright, and that was the name of it, NonStop Productions. So if you check the credits for some of the songs, you'll see produced by Johnny J and Tupac for NonStop Productions. So that'll show you the proof right there. That's something a lot of people didn't know.

And in XXL's October 2003 issue (2Pac 7 Years Later) the Outlawz talk about Pac as a producer

*Life of an Outlaw (produced by 2Pac)
-Edi says-"Pac actually played that melody song. He's not credited for it, but he played it. It's a little keyboard sound that you hear in the background. He's playing that.

*Against All Odds (produced by 2Pac)
-Edi says- I don't want to take nothing from none of the producers, but they all know 'Pac produced that record himself. Almost every note that nigga was humming to them niggas, every beat, snare, hi-hat-that nigga was telling what to play.

Peace
T

Pacologist
Any other Pac info, just holla at me.
 

Preach

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#37
Hellrazor1978 said:
Im pretty sure he produced the majority of Me and My Girlfriend, which IMO, is easily his sickest beat ever.....and one of the sickest beats ever PERIOD.
the beat consists of drums and percussion, a bass and a guitar. pac surely didnt play the guitar so he didnt really do the majority lol. he probably had his say in it though.
 

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