Police Brutality Just Reached A Higher Level.

hizzle?

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#25
They're rioting sort of and truthfully I cant be mad at it.

That the guy was shot in the back of the head? shut up...

It was an accident though, but apparently this kid of stuff happens a lot in Brazil... I guess scooby can say more.
 

ARon

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#26
Hizzle make sense

You are saying that the cop is threat to the public?

If so, it's not obvious to me.

He's not an armed robber with a criminal record.
He shot an unarmed civilian in the back, civilians happen to be part of our public, so yeah.

And fuck that accident bullshit, you think if one of us are pointing a gun at someone and it accidentley goes off we wont get in trouble? Police Officers are supposed to be trained to deal with situations like the one that happened, mistaking a taser for a real gun cus the situation was getting out of hand or whatever is just retarded.
 

S. Fourteen

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#27
He shot an unarmed civilian in the back, civilians happen to be part of our public, so yeah.
Do you think there's a good possibility that this cop is going to walk down the street tomorrow and commit crimes? I really doubt it.

I think you can agree that a gun can go off accidently. And a cop carrying a gun is part of the job in America. A civilian bringing a gun to a fist fight is not their duty. That's the difference I see. I think it's fair for the cop to stay in hiding until the investigation finds a reason to lock him up.

Edit: I didn't see the "accident is bullshit" part earlier...
I thought you'd agree since you saw the video from Brazil - that cop didn't shoot that guy on purpose. and you didn't get mad.

I don't buy the taser gun thing, but I can buy an accidental discharge of the weapon while using the butt of the gun as a blunt weapon. But I'm just an amateur and the videos I've seen are inconclusive.
 

ARon

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#28
Do you think there's a good possibility that this cop is going to walk down the street tomorrow and commit crimes? I really doubt it.

I think you can agree that a gun can go off accidently. And a cop carrying a gun is part of the job in America. A civilian bringing a gun to a fist fight is not their duty. That's the difference I see. I think it's fair for the cop to stay in hiding until the investigation finds a reason to lock him up.

Edit: I didn't see the "accident is bullshit" part earlier...
I thought you'd agree since you saw the video from Brazil - that cop didn't shoot that guy on purpose. and you didn't get mad.

I don't buy the taser gun thing, but I can buy an accidental discharge of the weapon while using the butt of the gun as a blunt weapon. But I'm just an amateur and the videos I've seen are inconclusive.
How do you know who will and will not walk down the street and commit a crime tomorrow? You dont.

He wasnt using the butt of the gun as a blnt weapon, he was standing above him with the gun in his hands. I definitely do not buy an accidental discharge excuse either. The only accident was having that gun in the cops hands
 

S. Fourteen

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#29
^^^ You're right. I don't know. I'm only applying what I think to be logical thinking and trying to eliminate possibilities for the sake of discussion. Like, would a cop deliberately shoot a man in the back while the man is on the ground in a crowded station with dozens of witnesses around? Or, who would be more likely to commit a crime - a civilian who just committed armed robbery or a cop who's under investigation? "There appears to be a brief struggle" is what was said in the video and despite the description on the linked site, the man didn't appear to be handcuffed at the time of shooting and if there was indeed a struggle then it is reasonable to use force to restrain him, to put the cuffs on the man so they can go about containing the situation around them. Cop don't wear bulletproof vests for show and I don't think it's uncommon for a cop to pull out his gun in a sticky situation even if it's to use the butt as a weapon. A taser or spray won't help the cop much if somebody around him suddenly pulls a gun.
 

ArtsyGirl

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#31
There were at least 3 cops around him, he was already on the floor.. I thought Police had an extended training regime that helped them deal with these situations rather than freak out and murder someone. Why didn't he go for his cuffs while the two other trained police held him down?
I don't think every Police officer involved in a shooting should be treated as an everyday criminal but to me this was uncalled for, I know people might say it's a hard job and all but if he's tried and found innocent well thats justice. To me it was an abuse of power FULL STOP.
 

Duke

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#32
^ To call it abuse of power would imply that he did it consciously. I mean, I can't believe that was deliberate but at the same time I can't believe it was accidental either.

I mean, let's hypothetically, let's say he wanted to shoot the guy. Either he panicked, which is even more tragic but somehow excusable (excusable, not justifieable), or he really wanted to. In the latter case he's the dumbest dude ever for doing it in those circumstances.

See where I'm coming from? It's so weird.
 

S O F I

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#33
I didn't look at the video or read up on the incident, mainly because I'd rather watch Lost instead.

However, articles talk about a BART shooting, a BART officer.

Bay Area Rapid Transit officer.

So, he's a ....security guard at a subway station or something?

It screams rent-a-cop to me. I could be wrong, though.
 

Duke

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#34
I dunno, it brought up funny connotations for me since one of my friends is named Bart and the idea of a BART officer lends itself for so many funny opportunities.
 

Kadafi Son

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#36
Excessive force was already used, especially for an unarmed guy surrounded by cops. Pullin' out a taser or a gun was actually stepping over the line. And then trying to commendeer the phones and cameras was an act of guilt. Then the trigger happy officer not apologizing to the family was an act of shame. And the cop not being detained until trial like every other citizen who makes a "mistake" is an act of injustice. A life got taken away, this is serious and it seems its at the bottom of the courts agenda. People are hurt, frustrated, confused and rioting a little and those people are having the law laid down on them. About a hundred people got arrested during the protest....what about the cop's arresting? Theres too many things wrong with this
 
#37
^ To call it abuse of power would imply that he did it consciously. I mean, I can't believe that was deliberate but at the same time I can't believe it was accidental either.

I mean, let's hypothetically, let's say he wanted to shoot the guy. Either he panicked, which is even more tragic but somehow excusable (excusable, not justifieable)... etc etc
wtf...sorry but it's no way escusable,he's TRAINED for that,not to panick in that kind of situation,to control any situation(even though this situation was nothing special,there are worse),if you're too "sensitive" and easy to fucking panick,don't do this kinda job...work at mc donalds
 

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