So, remember the meat eating debates?

tHuG $TyLe

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#1
There was a time when this debate and the God debate seemingly were the only things discussed on here. So many years on, what's your views/eating habits now? Especially as being a Vegan is now becoming more and more popular.
 

masta247

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#2
Whatever floats your boat. I eat healthier than I used to for sure, but I couldn't become vegetarian.

Same with religion. As long as you're not bothering anyone with it and you're a "good" person. If there is a God, no matter how unlikely anyone might think it is, I'm sure he would be fine with whoever was a logical, good person.
I thhink there are much more important issues than religion that we can and should be doing things about.
 

Rukas

Capo Dei Capi
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#3
Humans have evolved to eat meat.

We do eat pretty vegetarian at home though. Even use bean curd and tofu. But that’s because with my life style we buy meat then something comes up and I have to go somewhere or we’ve eaten out and then it goes off. Tofu and bean curd last longer without needing to freeze/defrost.

My cousin from Norway is staying with me for a week and he’s vegan so we have been too. It’s fine.
 

k69atie

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#5
I eat meat but I do try to have meat free meals sometimes

I don't follow a religion but have no issues with people who do as long as they don't try and push their views onto me
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
#9
It's hard for me to go a day without meat so I just got smarter about what meat I ate. Which really just meant laying off of things like sausages and burgers and just occasionally have a nice steak. Otherwise, I prefer chicken and some fish over the rest.

I can't do more than that. I've found that I can happily substitute paneer instead of meat in many dishes but that is strictly with Indian food. I could do tofu for Chinese and Thai food as well, but I don't either either cuisine often enough.
 

Jokerman

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#10
My views now. There is no healthiest diet for everyone. People have individual needs. And those needs change as we get older or go through different phases of life. But I think if you eat a diet with an emphasis on green vegetables, fruits, whole grains, nuts, and seeds every day, then you can include some animal foods without dying young. Just make sure your weight and blood values are good. If not, adjust something, experiment. Wild salmon is probably the best animal source, but there are still concerns about mercury. Sardines are healthy, if you can stand them. Veganism is definitely not for everyone. But the best thing people can do for their health and weight is not to eat anything with added sugar, corn syrup or refined flour products. That’s a challenge for most people, since everything with an ingredient label has added sweets. Fine, stop eating things with labels. I don’t. Not even salad dressing; I make my own. The more you can cut out those sweets, the healthier you will be.
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
#11
My views now. There is no healthiest diet for everyone. People have individual needs. And those needs change as we get older or go through different phases of life. But I think if you eat a diet with an emphasis on green vegetables, fruits, whole grains, nuts, and seeds every day, then you can include some animal foods without dying young. Just make sure your weight and blood values are good. If not, adjust something, experiment. Wild salmon is probably the best animal source, but there are still concerns about mercury. Sardines are healthy, if you can stand them. Veganism is definitely not for everyone. But the best thing people can do for their health and weight is not to eat anything with added sugar, corn syrup or refined flour products. That’s a challenge for most people, since everything with an ingredient label has added sweets. Fine, stop eating things with labels. I don’t. Not even salad dressing; I make my own. The more you can cut out those sweets, the healthier you will be.
I have a friend whose father is in to fisheries so I should probably ask him but wild fish have the concerns for mercury. Do fish from farms have the same concerns?

And about nuts, I think recent studies say that nuts should be eaten raw and not processed. That means no salt/seasoning, obviously, but roasted or toasted nuts are a no-go either since they lose their nutrients in the process.

And nuts should be pecans and almonds and walnuts and not so much peanuts and macadamia nuts.

My pops has been certified in healthy eating, mindfulness, etc. for the past two years and this is just what I pick up from him along the way and he certainly practices what he preaches to his patients. He was veg to begin with but now he's big on nuts and apple cider vinegar (gut microbiome) and intermittent fasting. I know I saw my greatest weight loss with IF but it's really hard to do unless you are a busy person. For me, at least. Because as soon as I get some down time, my mind wanders towards food. And even if it's a rather healthy food, 'snacking" on nuts turns into "feasting" and it goes downhill from nuts to chips and other things. During my great drop in weight, I had an action packed day that began with a mile walk, 8 hours of classroom time and then a mile walk back. 5 AM to 5 PM I was out the house and while I did eat lunch outside once in a while, I would rack up another .75 miles going to and from a decently healthy place like a sandwich shop and the occasional burger joint.

For some reason, walking in 20 degree downtown Chicago weather is a more desirable means of exercise than just getting on the treadmill and continuing that similar level of activity.
 

Casey

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#16
Especially as being a Vegan is now becoming more and more popular.
500% rise in 4 years, apparently.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeand...lennials-health-climate-change-animal-welfare

I feel ahead of the curve. I have now been vegan for 9 years and I remember when it was a struggle to find vegan specific products in UK supermarkets. Now, they all have their own vegan ranges and it's easy to find great vegan restaurants pretty much wherever I travel to.

It's great to see the rise.
 

Jokerman

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#20
Both of those articles are based on the same report, which shows a 500% increase in the US from 2014 till now. 1% identified as vegan in 2014 and now it's 6% of Americans. So the second article probably got mixed up by the 6% and said 600% instead of 500%. However, those numbers don't look like any other I've seen over the years. Gallup poll surveys are usually the most accurate. They had 2% vegan in 2008 and 3% in 2018. That's only a 1% rise in 10 years. Also, 5% say they are vegetarian, which hasn't really changed. The numbers might be a little more, but not by much. I don't know about the other countries.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/238328/snapshot-few-americans-vegetarian-vegan.aspx
 

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