Will Pac's new album still have a Dr. Dre track?

[Crunkadelic]

There was talk about Dre doing two tracks for it (one old, unleaked from '96 and a newly produced). :thumb:

...or was that just another bullshit rumor?

 

[Icecixz]

its almost Detox-like isnt it?

 

[Pittsey]

I'd go so far as to say Dre hated 2pac as a person. Therefore.. No.

 

[DeeezNuuuts83]

I'd go so far as to say Dre hated 2pac as a person. Therefore.. No.

I wouldn't go that far. I think the two artists had different approaches to making music and were at different stages in their lives in 1996.

Music-wise, Dre was and is a perfectionist, and would sit in the studio for hours upon hours working on a beat until it's right. In addition, he needed the strong motivation to work as well. In his early N.W.A days, it was to make it out of Compton, having the lavish lifestyle that they all dreamt about as kids. In his early Death Row days, it was to recover from leaving Ruthless and starting up a new company with Suge. In his early Aftermath days, it was to prove to everyone that he still had the magic touch and could make it on his own.

Pac, on the other hand, was a one-take kind of guy, and had new lyrics seemingly coming out almost as often as he breathed. In addition, he was always hungry, always out to prove something, and that seemed to always be more than enough motivation, hence his ability to record boatloads of songs. So obviously when the two of them are on the same team, there is potential for magic, but the two different approaches can cause problems.

Personality-wise, Dre was all into being a badass in the beginning, but toward the end of his stay at Death Row and after his own personal run-ins with the law, he was just tired of it, while Pac, fresh out of jail and a new Death Row artist, was out to prove he was the biggest badass in the industry, very much into the "chain is only as strong as its weakest link" meets "by any means necessary" type of mentality. So once again, conflict.

I don't think Dre hated Pac, he just thought Pac was probably always trying to prove something he didn't have to prove, which obviously turned out to be true. While Pac talking shit and calling Dre gay didn't help, I still don't see that as being enough to stir up hatred. I'd say he thought Pac was just immature when it came to the "riding." To put it into perspective, I just came back from McDonald's. I already graduated from college, and I saw some high school football players sitting in their little groups in the restaurant and trying to talk big and stir up commotion and attention. While I was once in their position, I look at them and realize that it's really just a waste of time, and hardly anything is getting accomplished, since there is so much more important stuff to put your energy into. I figure that's how Dre looked at Pac.

 

[DRAVEN007]

i dont think we need anymore gay ppl on tupac albums we already had elton john,gay unit i dont think we need dr.gay either

 

[stefanwzyga]

I don't think Dre hated Pac, he just thought Pac was probably always trying to prove something he didn't have to prove, which obviously turned out to be true.

I agree.

 

[Kevin_96]

i dont think we need anymore gay ppl on tupac albums we already had elton john,gay unit i dont think we need dr.gay either

What tha fuck? Dre was dope men...

 

[SonOf2pac]

i haven't heard a good dre beat in a while... his tracks on busta album were terrible... i like the new track he co-prod for snoop called thats that shit w/ r.kelly... but dre and pac would be cool today

 

[Skiljo]

Dre is an excellent producer and he's a better choice than any other popular producers Amaru chose to work on 2Pac's albums. But I doubt we'll see Dre on a 2Pac track on this new album. Then again, who knows?

 

[Foxmulder]

A fresh Dre beat would be real sweet on the new album but if the good Docter were to split a verse or two who would they get to ghost write for him. : D

 

[PELLA]

definately not.

 

[Local Star]

don't think Dre hated Pac, he just thought Pac was probably always trying to prove something he didn't have to prove, which obviously turned out to be true. While Pac talking shit and calling Dre gay didn't help, I still don't see that as being enough to stir up hatred. I'd say he thought Pac was just immature when it came to the "riding." To put it into perspective, I just came back from McDonald's. I already graduated from college, and I saw some high school football players sitting in their little groups in the restaurant and trying to talk big and stir up commotion and attention. While I was once in their position, I look at them and realize that it's really just a waste of time, and hardly anything is getting accomplished, since there is so much more important stuff to put your energy into. I figure that's how Dre looked at Pac.

Nice quote, but what would Ronald have to say??? Im sure Hamburgalar would be pissed!

 

[Pittsey]

I wouldn't go that far. I think the two artists had different approaches to making music and were at different stages in their lives in 1996.

Music-wise, Dre was and is a perfectionist, and would sit in the studio for hours upon hours working on a beat until it's right. In addition, he needed the strong motivation to work as well. In his early N.W.A days, it was to make it out of Compton, having the lavish lifestyle that they all dreamt about as kids. In his early Death Row days, it was to recover from leaving Ruthless and starting up a new company with Suge. In his early Aftermath days, it was to prove to everyone that he still had the magic touch and could make it on his own.

Pac, on the other hand, was a one-take kind of guy, and had new lyrics seemingly coming out almost as often as he breathed. In addition, he was always hungry, always out to prove something, and that seemed to always be more than enough motivation, hence his ability to record boatloads of songs. So obviously when the two of them are on the same team, there is potential for magic, but the two different approaches can cause problems.

Personality-wise, Dre was all into being a badass in the beginning, but toward the end of his stay at Death Row and after his own personal run-ins with the law, he was just tired of it, while Pac, fresh out of jail and a new Death Row artist, was out to prove he was the biggest badass in the industry, very much into the "chain is only as strong as its weakest link" meets "by any means necessary" type of mentality. So once again, conflict.

I don't think Dre hated Pac, he just thought Pac was probably always trying to prove something he didn't have to prove, which obviously turned out to be true. While Pac talking shit and calling Dre gay didn't help, I still don't see that as being enough to stir up hatred. I'd say he thought Pac was just immature when it came to the "riding." To put it into perspective, I just came back from McDonald's. I already graduated from college, and I saw some high school football players sitting in their little groups in the restaurant and trying to talk big and stir up commotion and attention. While I was once in their position, I look at them and realize that it's really just a waste of time, and hardly anything is getting accomplished, since there is so much more important stuff to put your energy into. I figure that's how Dre looked at Pac.

I'm pretty sure Dre appreciates 2pac as an artist. But hated the man.

If I hound you and make up allegations about you which threaten your marriage and career would you like me?

 

[DeeezNuuuts83]

If I hound you and make up allegations about you which threaten your marriage and career would you like me?

Yes. But not forever. I'd get over it. Everyone does. It's not like you castrated me and buttfucked my sister in front of me or something.

But at the same time, I don't think Pac really did either of those things. Pac calling Dre gay didn't threaten his marriage at all. I really doubt Dre's wife would give a shit about some rapper claiming Dre was banging guys, when at the time he was hardly going into the studio or dicking around. And most of Pac's shit talking wasn't even that major. The stuff he said during his interview with Sway wasn't that big of a deal ("Dre's doing his own thing, it don't affect us"), the stuff from his interview with Rob Mariott from VIBE was cut from the printed article and hardly leaked in its entirety ("He suckin' dick, eatin' pussy"), and the two songs that actually dissed him don't revolve around Dre ("Check your sexuality, it's fruity as this Alize" and "California Love part two, without gay-ass Dre"), so most of the shit he said about Dre wasn't really given much attention by the general public or the media. I don't think Pac really threatened Dre's career much either, it was Dre's own absence from the studio and lack of motivation that slowed him down. That and all of the Death Row bullshit, like all sorts of random people always being at the studio and engineers getting physically abused for dumb things.

 

[WC Mafia]

Yeah, Dre's gay because Pac said so...that's a mature way to look at it. Great post. :thumb:

yeah, thats why we called makaveli ridaz....

 

[Kadafi Son]

But at the same time, I don't think Pac really did either of those things. Pac calling Dre gay didn't threaten his marriage at all. I really doubt Dre's wife would give a shit about some rapper claiming Dre was banging guys, when at the time he was hardly going into the studio or dicking around. And most of Pac's shit talking wasn't even that major. The stuff he said during his interview with Sway wasn't that big of a deal ("Dre's doing his own thing, it don't affect us"), the stuff from his interview with Rob Mariott from VIBE was cut from the printed article and hardly leaked in its entirety ("He suckin' dick, eatin' pussy"), and the two songs that actually dissed him don't revolve around Dre ("Check your sexuality, it's fruity as this Alize" and "California Love part two, without gay-ass Dre"), so most of the shit he said about Dre wasn't really given much attention by the general public or the media. I don't think Pac really threatened Dre's career much either, it was Dre's own absence from the studio and lack of motivation that slowed him down. That and all of the Death Row bullshit, like all sorts of random people always being at the studio and engineers getting physically abused for dumb things.

I wouldn't go that far. I think the two artists had different approaches to making music and were at different stages in their lives in 1996.

Music-wise, Dre was and is a perfectionist, and would sit in the studio for hours upon hours working on a beat until it's right. In addition, he needed the strong motivation to work as well. In his early N.W.A days, it was to make it out of Compton, having the lavish lifestyle that they all dreamt about as kids. In his early Death Row days, it was to recover from leaving Ruthless and starting up a new company with Suge. In his early Aftermath days, it was to prove to everyone that he still had the magic touch and could make it on his own.

Pac, on the other hand, was a one-take kind of guy, and had new lyrics seemingly coming out almost as often as he breathed. In addition, he was always hungry, always out to prove something, and that seemed to always be more than enough motivation, hence his ability to record boatloads of songs. So obviously when the two of them are on the same team, there is potential for magic, but the two different approaches can cause problems.

Personality-wise, Dre was all into being a badass in the beginning, but toward the end of his stay at Death Row and after his own personal run-ins with the law, he was just tired of it, while Pac, fresh out of jail and a new Death Row artist, was out to prove he was the biggest badass in the industry, very much into the "chain is only as strong as its weakest link" meets "by any means necessary" type of mentality. So once again, conflict.

I don't think Dre hated Pac, he just thought Pac was probably always trying to prove something he didn't have to prove, which obviously turned out to be true. While Pac talking shit and calling Dre gay didn't help, I still don't see that as being enough to stir up hatred. I'd say he thought Pac was just immature when it came to the "riding." To put it into perspective, I just came back from McDonald's. I already graduated from college, and I saw some high school football players sitting in their little groups in the restaurant and trying to talk big and stir up commotion and attention. While I was once in their position, I look at them and realize that it's really just a waste of time, and hardly anything is getting accomplished, since there is so much more important stuff to put your energy into. I figure that's how Dre looked at Pac.

Great analyzing, man
I agree with that. I didn't even know to much about Pac's accusations, since it wasn't talked about that much. But I know if Pac would've live, they would have eventually became cool again

 

[EDouble]

he also dissed him in Friends

hell I wouldnt know too much about this shit and only have few things that Pac had said and that things in the dark would 'come to the light' one day

as far as
dre is concerned
anyone here remember his words in that Bodyguard track dissin Ja?

"You pussy youre not Pac - I knew him
Pac was a real nigga, you just a fuckin insult to him
It's too bad we had to fall out, before he passed
Cause if he could see this shit now he'd be whoopin your ass

 

[kabils.vision]

i remember when pac died

we lost a great entertainer

i gues he hated him but respected him

i guess

 

[Pittsey]

he also dissed him in Friends

hell I wouldnt know too much about this shit and only have few things that Pac had said and that things in the dark would 'come to the light' one day

as far as
dre is concerned
anyone here remember his words in that Bodyguard track dissin Ja?

"You pussy youre not Pac - I knew him
Pac was a real nigga, you just a fuckin insult to him
It's too bad we had to fall out, before he passed
Cause if he could see this shit now he'd be whoopin your ass

It's a song. And it wasn't written by Dre. I think Dre likes 2pac as an artist. Just not as a puppet/person.

But then again this is just my opinion.

 

[ThugPound]

Im agree wit DeeezNuuuts83..Thx 4 good analyzin this shit
But wasnt dre jalous of pac's work and how he was gettin on top so quick after comin outta jail

this is old, but interestin 2 see how dre took it where pac came in


makin of cali luv: California Love [RMX]" Featuring Dr. Dre and Roger Troutman Produced by Dr. Dre

Tommy D: f##k it, I can say it: Dre really didn't want nothing to do with that record. He didn't like it at all that 2pac came to Death Row, which I thought was kind of interesting, 'cause I remember he said, "That's it, I'm done with Death Row now that 2pac is here." I was like, "What the f##k!?" I mean, if you look at that album, he didn't do shit on "All Eyez On Me" except for "California Love," which basically was, ughhh, that was going to be his single for Aftermath, right? And Suge heard that shit and said, "f##k it," and rushed up to Dre's house and made him put 2pac on there. So basically he lost his first single for Aftermath, and it ended up being the first single for 2pac. Because the original version of that is three verses with dre rapping on it. The only person who's got that original version is DJ Jam, Snoop's DJ. So basically Suge was like, "f##k it, we're putting 2pac on that shit, and this is going to be the single off the record..." that shit was dope. Suge ain't no dummy.