Charlie sheen vs barrack obama !!!

[Duke]

^Many of the officers and firefighters who were there described huge explosions that happened right before the towers collapsed, and also when WTC7 collapsed. They said it was a "boom boom boom..." effect where all the floors stacked up on themselves like pancakes. Almost as if it was a controlled demolition.

There is collapse noise and there is explosive noise. They are not the same.


You really think that IF it was a rigged job, they would be able to keep it quiet? Let alone be able to rig the building, which housed many businesses, unnoticed?

 

[vg4030]

If it was a 'controlled' explosion. Why oh why would it be controlled to look like a controlled explosion?

After all the careful planning and government involvement to actually get the planes to fly into the building, you are saying that they planted explosives to make the buildings fall down perfectly. Why?

 

[Killuminatii 71]

Good points, the two of you. Keep in mind i never said it was a controlled demolition. That's what the first responders described they heard. Loud explosions inside the buildings right before the collapse.

Why?

Hey, without 9/11 there wouldn't be a war in Iraq. Or a defense budget of world conquest proportions.

 

[Stred]

If it was a 'controlled' explosion. Why oh why would it be controlled to look like a controlled explosion?

After all the careful planning and government involvement to actually get the planes to fly into the building, you are saying that they planted explosives to make the buildings fall down perfectly. Why?

So it didn't wreck the star bucks next door, duh.

 

[Jokerman]

Everyone already knows that the US government is controlled by a rich Jewish cabal that acts in the Middle East strictly out of corrupt self-interest and often for the sheer pleasure of torturing and killing Muslims and other "inferior" races. America is responsible for plagues, famine, war, and even natural disasters such as earthquakes and hurricanes, which are manipulated by its evil scientists. Whatever examples of American contributions to the world--the Peace Corps, billions in disaster assistance, etc.--are nothing but ploys or sinister plots to further subjugate the planet.

Even Obama met secretly with the Bilderburg Group.

 

[tupac4li4e]

Thanks for posting this.

Now, Mr. Bush, Mr. Cheney, Mrs. Rice, What happened?



If they couldn't even be honest about the AIR that the first responders were breathing, how could they possibly be honest about every single event that happened during 9/11 if they have no caring for the public servants, and the people that worked that day.

That's true, I've seen a few doco's where they interview survivers and volunteers of 9/11. The amount of health problems most of these poor people have is very very high, some life threatening, some serverely disabling people for the rest of their lives, and what do the government give them for their couragous efforts to help at Ground Zero, nothing, no help, no compensation, just a cold shoulder. It's just another easy way of seeing what value the governement places on our lives, none at all.

A good thing the internet has so many critically thinking structural engineers that know a collapse from a controlled demolition.

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Guess what happenes when a key column of a huge building snaps and causes collapse. The inside goes first. You're looking at the exterior. It collapses in on itself, causing the pressure to blow out the sides, which E PRESTO, creates your "demolition lines".

And for your information, the puffs you saw at a controlled demo aren't explosive puffs. They are pressure puffs like I just described.

Also, a controlled demo would be audible, as the explosives make a clear and distinct noise from the rest of the collapsing building.



But by all means, continue to call me blind.

I think maybe you are happy to be bilnd ? From what I can gather and I'll be the first to admit I'm not a building engineer or expert but I don't believe support beams of a huge building would JUST SNAP like they did with the towers, they must be able to withstand huge amounts of wind force and thus have to be slightly flexible, the beams would of twisted and been bent all out of shape would it have gone done the way they said it did. Though when you see pictures of the beams, they almost look like clean cuts, sussssssspect !

Like I said, just my opinion so I'm not going to make it out like its fact, just suss.

There is collapse noise and there is explosive noise. They are not the same.

If the bombs were rigged to go off close enough together, it would seem like one continous "collapse".


You really think that IF it was a rigged job, they would be able to keep it quiet? Let alone be able to rig the building, which housed many businesses, unnoticed?

You really think they wouldn't be able to ? The building's security got completely changed after the new owner, and that new owner took out an insurance plan that covered "terrorist attacks" just months before, SUSPECT.

If it was a 'controlled' explosion. Why oh why would it be controlled to look like a controlled explosion?

After all the careful planning and government involvement to actually get the planes to fly into the building, you are saying that they planted explosives to make the buildings fall down perfectly. Why?

You can only make a controlled explosion look so many ways, perhaps it looks that way because it is. Of course, if the buildings did not fall down, the impact of the whole incident would not have been half as bad. More casualties, mean more support for the government and bush war agenda, even senior had the same damn intentions as his retarded son Bush Jr.

Good points, the two of you. Keep in mind i never said it was a controlled demolition. That's what the first responders described they heard. Loud explosions inside the buildings right before the collapse.

Why?

Hey, without 9/11 there wouldn't be a war in Iraq. Or a defense budget of world conquest proportions.

EXACTLY.

 

[Bobby Sands]

i can never understand when they say that 9/11 was planned by the government so they could have a reason to invade Iraq? If that was the case why didnt they start blaming Saddam Hussein for it and then start invading Iraq straight. They didnt. they invaded Afghanistan within days of the attacks.

 

[Flipmo]

I can understand how it is not butter?

 

[PaulyPac]

Zbigniew Brzezinski, chief advisor (Obama's puppet master) also co-founder of the Trilateral Commision Wrote in his 1997 "The Grand Chessboard" that Afghanistan would be attacked by the USA, but after only after a "Pearl Harbor type of attack on the USA to gain the support of the American population". To secure the oil line under Eurasia.

Brzezinski is also a attendee and presenter at conferences of the Bilderberg Group.

Also this

"How America 'manages' Eurasia is critical. A power that dominates Eurasia would control two of the world's three most advanced and economically productive regions. A mere glance at the map also suggests that control over Eurasia would almost automatically entail Africa's subordination, rendering the Western Hemisphere and Oceania geopolitically peripheral to the world's central continent. About 75 per cent of the world's people live in Eurasia, and most of the world's physical wealth is there as well, both in its enterprises and underneath its soil. Eurasia accounts for about three-fourths of the world's known energy resources.

Here's your man with the Boogie man.

Now listen to this too. June 2001

 

[tupac4li4e]

i can never understand when they say that 9/11 was planned by the government so they could have a reason to invade Iraq? If that was the case why didnt they start blaming Saddam Hussein for it and then start invading Iraq straight. They didnt. they invaded Afghanistan within days of the attacks.

Why, becuase it would be TOO OBVIOUS, bush snr wanted iraq fuckin years ago, oh and now he's fuckin braindead retarded son is in "power" what the fuck happens ? Let me guess, when you were a child, you wernt very good at dot to dot, were you ?

WAKE THE FUCK UP !

Has anyone read this SHIT on wikipedia ?

"Within hours of the attacks, the FBI was able to determine the names and in many cases the personal details of the suspected pilots and hijackers.[72][73] Mohamed Atta's luggage, which did not make the connection from his Portland flight onto Flight 11, contained papers that revealed the identity of all 19 hijackers (all men), and other important clues about their plans, motives, and backgrounds"

If the FBI was able to determine what time of day it was, I would be fuckin surprised. You think these "terrorists" if they were real, would leave that kind of information in THIER LUGGAGE ? Seriously, DO YOU ?

Grow a fucking brain, for fuck sake.

 

[tupac4li4e]

Zbigniew Brzezinski, chief advisor (Obama's puppet master) also co-founder of the Trilateral Commision Wrote in his 1997 "The Grand Chessboard" that Afghanistan would be attacked by the USA, but after only after a "Pearl Harbor type of attack on the USA to gain the support of the American population". To secure the oil line under Eurasia.

Brzezinski is also a attendee and presenter at conferences of the Bilderberg Group.

Also this

"How America 'manages' Eurasia is critical. A power that dominates Eurasia would control two of the world's three most advanced and economically productive regions. A mere glance at the map also suggests that control over Eurasia would almost automatically entail Africa's subordination, rendering the Western Hemisphere and Oceania geopolitically peripheral to the world's central continent. About 75 per cent of the world's people live in Eurasia, and most of the world's physical wealth is there as well, both in its enterprises and underneath its soil. Eurasia accounts for about three-fourths of the world's known energy resources.

Here's your man with the Boogie man.

Now listen to this too. June 2001

Word up !

 

[tupac4li4e]

No takers ?

Can I be on your list too?

I'll be happy with top 5 :wondering:

Alright, until further notice, you can have #5 spot, and a gold star on your forehead. Misbehave and it all gets taken away as quickly as it's given !

I can understand how it is not butter?

Well, it's not that hard is it, I mean really ?

Sooooooo, all of you early haters out there, did you bother to look at the bibliography of the CS "interview" ??

Anyone? here it is again, I truly want your honest thoughts......

20 Minutes With The President - Bibliography

Peace out

 

[tupac4li4e]

Figures

"Sooooooo, all of you early haters out there, did you bother to look at the bibliography of the CS "interview" ??"

Well ? Bunch of fucking jokers, a bit of truth and you go quiet ? What you in denial ?

Wake up, seriously for your own good.

The truth will only be found through Ego Dissolution.

How many of you can distinguish your true self from your Ego/personality ?

Yeah, thought so, you all talked me down like I was some conspiricy theorist, thinking fuck it's easier that way, take some responsibilty for yourselves, and WAKE UP.

As always, peace

 

[Sebastian]

Yeah, i believe it was an inside job.

 

[masta247]

As always, peace

There's not much "peace" in your posts.

You are boring. Stop posting numerous times just to bump your thread.

 

[Little Skittle]

"Sooooooo, all of you early haters out there, did you bother to look at the bibliography of the CS "interview" ??"

Well ? Bunch of fucking jokers, a bit of truth and you go quiet ? What you in denial ?

Wake up, seriously for your own good.

The truth will only be found through Ego Dissolution.

How many of you can distinguish your true self from your Ego/personality ?

Yeah, thought so, you all talked me down like I was some conspiricy theorist, thinking fuck it's easier that way, take some responsibilty for yourselves, and WAKE UP.

As always, peace

I personally stopped because it's not fun to argue with someone who doesn't look at facts. Why should I waste my time trying to educate you when you're so blinded by everything that you read? Nothing's in it for me besides a headache and another 10 wasted minutes.

 

[tupac4li4e]

There's not much "peace" in your posts.

You are boring. Stop posting numerous times just to bump your thread.

Masta, did I get to you ? Sorry bro, lol was just having some fun, man up and take a joke you pussy, or go knock out some innocent joggers, whatever you find more peaceful.

I personally stopped because it's not fun to argue with someone who doesn't look at facts. Why should I waste my time trying to educate you when you're so blinded by everything that you read? Nothing's in it for me besides a headache and another 10 wasted minutes.

Well thats fair enough, but prove my opinions wrong ?

Actually don't, obviously you are not into the truth of it all. Perhaps you are like the majority and just believe all the facts that the mass public get fed.

I never said I don't look at facts, it may seem that way, basically I don't take everything in as fact until I can do my own cross referencing/confirmation. One of the biggest mistakes someone can make is to believe wholeheartedly in a lie. So I try to remain impartial as best I can, but with all this shit, there is just way to much going on to ingnore it.

But each to his own.

 

[Duke]

Well thats fair enough, but prove my opinions wrong ?

Actually don't, obviously you are not into the truth of it all. Perhaps you are like the majority and just believe all the facts that the mass public get fed.

I never said I don't look at facts, it may seem that way, basically I don't take everything in as fact until I can do my own cross referencing/confirmation. One of the biggest mistakes someone can make is to believe wholeheartedly in a lie. So I try to remain impartial as best I can, but with all this shit, there is just way to much going on to ingnore it.

But each to his own.

No one ever said to ignore things or don't ask questions. The thing is, you're going overboard on it like so many conspiracists.

Yes, Brzezinski wrote a book about that shit. It's a book on geo-strategy actually. It's supposed to be about hypothetical cases of exerting your influence sphere in a certain area. To pick out Afghanistan just because that one actually happened (as in, got invaded. For entirely different reasons than the book would suggest, but ok) is selective reasoning of the highest degree.

And you boys managed to find a picture of a US official with Bin Laden. Wow. Fucking surprise.

This is known for years. Of course the US supported nutcase Bin Laden while Bin was busy trying to drive Soviet forces from his country. US supported Saddam too for a while. These are examples of political Cold War strategies, not clear cut examples of a massive conspiracy in the making.

But of course any idiot can interpret it as such. I can also say that the empty beer bottle next to me is a space alien God. Prove me wrong on that, he said in defiance.

Point is, as much as people like me will hand you explanations and reasons for the 1970's pictures and book excerpts (not to mention Youtube video's. The undisputable standard of truth) you will come up with, everything we bring to the table will be twisted around to fit your interpretation.

And if one party will not listen, it becomes a fruitless discussion.

 

[tupac4li4e]

selective reasoning of the highest degree.

And you boys managed to find a picture of a US official with Bin Laden. Wow. Fucking surprise.

This is known for years. Of course the US supported nutcase Bin Laden while Bin was busy trying to drive Soviet forces from his country. US supported Saddam too for a while. These are examples of political Cold War strategies, not clear cut examples of a massive conspiracy in the making.

But of course any idiot can interpret it as such.


And if one party will not listen, it becomes a fruitless discussion.

MHHMMM, Oh I hear you Duke, all too well. lol.

 

[Duke]

Let's just assume you're right. For fuck's sake. Why not? You're right. The "gubmint" blew up the towers.


Hazard a guess at how many people, at all levels, would need to be "in the loop" on this to make it function smoothly. I'm just saying, what are the numbers here? A few hundred? Close to a thousand? How many government officials, military planners, generals, WTC-7 controlled demo-riggers, financial people to implement the "big money scam", etc?

How many?