What was 2pac's message ?

[Bender]

Tupac claimed that he wanted to be a revolutionary; yet he was, and is, most known for his rap music.

My question is: Did 2pac bring a revolutionary aspect with his music, and if he did, what was it exactly?

I don't put the question in the context of just simply 'rap music', I prefer to see his lyrics as more of a carriage on the train of thought to revolution.

Was 2pac trying to expressing his own philosophy of life? Was he laying the mental foundations for a new way of thinking, a new way of living life, a new attitude to life ... what?


I'd be interested to read other peoples perspectives on what the revolutionary aspects to tupacs music are, please contribute ..

 

[L.McG]

Tupac was a unique revolutionary. Rather than pressure political parties and do marches and hold conferences, he tried to not only rally his own people to speak out against the system, his aim was just as much to appeal to the people who could actually change politics, i.e young white people. I think there was a fine line between him being controversial and getting publicity for his cause and being serene and having more respect but less publicity/popularity. I think that is part of the reason why Tupac said that he was ''at war with myself at times.''
But the way he conducted himself was almost perfect for his cause, except when he got too deep into the beefing in '96.
As for me though, I think almost all of his music was revolutionary in the bigger picture. I think he wanted to drop less music starting from maybe mid '97 (maybe one dope album every two years that would be very political) and just get himself more respect by acting more mature and becoming a serious actor. Then he would have became actively involved in politics. I think that was where he was headed from a revolutionary point of view. So I think his overall plan was to use rap as just a political stepping stone to get a big name, then I think he would have made a surprising impact on politics. So even though only some of his music was considered revolutionary by definition, it was all part of a bigger goal. A few of my favourite revolutionary songs are; My Block, Brenda's got a Baby, Letter to the President and White Manz World. But one line verse which I think sums up Tupac as being a genuine genius is in They don't Give a Fuck About us when he raps ''Thuggin' till the day I die
They don't give a fuck about us
And when I start to rise
A hero in their children's eyes
Now they give a fuck about us .'' What a song.

 

[Sebastian]

Tupac was a unique revolutionary. Rather than pressure political parties and do marches and hold conferences, he tried to not only rally his own people to speak out against the system, his aim was just as much to appeal to the people who could actually change politics, i.e young white people. I think there was a fine line between him being controversial and getting publicity for his cause and being serene and having more respect but less publicity/popularity. I think that is part of the reason why Tupac said that he was ''at war with myself at times.''
But the way he conducted himself was almost perfect for his cause, except when he got too deep into the beefing in '96.
As for me though, I think almost all of his music was revolutionary in some respect. I think he wanted to drop less music starting from maybe mid '97 (maybe one dope album every two years that would be very political) and just get himself more respect by acting more mature and becoming a serious actor. Then he would have became actively involved in politics. I think that was where he was headed from a revolutionary point of view. So I think his overall plan was to use rap as just a political stepping stone to get a big name, then I think he would have made a surprising impact on politics. So even though only some of his music was considered revolutionary by definition, it was all part of a bigger goal. A few of my favourite revolutionary songs are; My Block, Brenda's got a Baby, Letter to the President and White Manz World. But one line verse which I think sums up Tupac as being a genuine genius is in They don't Give a Fuck About us when he raps ''Thuggin' till the day I die
They don't give a fuck about us
And when I start to rise
A hero in their children's eyes
Now they give a fuck about us .'' What a song.

 

[L.McG]

what's wrong BeReal?

 

[ManiacDego]

i would say, beside the fact that pac rapped about politics racist issues etc. his flow was the thing which made him revolutionary, take a look at all leaders of the world, they scream over masses of peoples, so was pac, he stretched words from the heart, and few words he really screamed out (example :ballad of a dead soulja)

to the peoples who think pac is overrated; is coze when pac was sayin mutherfucker or bitch or nigga or some like "i kill u, nigga" that hes a ordinary rapper like anyone, but the man who brings inspiration must always act harder then the men who got inspired

its like "u cant fight against war wit peace"

 

[-744-]

Now I know you.

Erm...in relation to someone saying it was all part of a bigger picture, Tupac himself said somethin like you can't understand what his music's sayin til you listen to it all and bring it together to decipher this message. But right now you can hear it in every song.

In some songs he's rappin like the average rapper, as if to say sometimes he's part of what's "wrong". In others he's more open-minded and looking from the outside or "starin through my rearview", and tellin us what's wrong so we may be inspired to fix it.

What I think Tupac was about is...say we're all part of what's wrong even though we try to do right and do do right sometimes, he's sayin we gotta work together into make it right.

"A togetherness of society" basically I think he's gettin at.

 

[Kadafi Son]

Tupac was a unique revolutionary. Rather than pressure political parties and do marches and hold conferences, he tried to not only rally his own people to speak out against the system, his aim was just as much to appeal to the people who could actually change politics, i.e young white people. I think there was a fine line between him being controversial and getting publicity for his cause and being serene and having more respect but less publicity/popularity. I think that is part of the reason why Tupac said that he was ''at war with myself at times.''
But the way he conducted himself was almost perfect for his cause, except when he got too deep into the beefing in '96.
As for me though, I think almost all of his music was revolutionary in the bigger picture. I think he wanted to drop less music starting from maybe mid '97 (maybe one dope album every two years that would be very political) and just get himself more respect by acting more mature and becoming a serious actor. Then he would have became actively involved in politics. I think that was where he was headed from a revolutionary point of view. So I think his overall plan was to use rap as just a political stepping stone to get a big name, then I think he would have made a surprising impact on politics. So even though only some of his music was considered revolutionary by definition, it was all part of a bigger goal. A few of my favourite revolutionary songs are; My Block, Brenda's got a Baby, Letter to the President and White Manz World. But one line verse which I think sums up Tupac as being a genuine genius is in They don't Give a Fuck About us when he raps ''Thuggin' till the day I die
They don't give a fuck about us
And when I start to rise
A hero in their children's eyes
Now they give a fuck about us .'' What a song.

Tight Post:thumb:

 

[Rahim]

2Pac's music is a representation Struggle, struggle in his life, struggle around the world, and struggle also being the meaning of life; he has personified that for us completely.

 

[P.U.]

2Pac's message was "Gimmie dem chipz, nucca". But on the real though, Pac's message varied from track to track as he grew up. First it was story of a young black male, then it was angry Pac against politics and censorship and the last it was Pac talking shit about his enemies. Yay yay, wesssidddee. :thumb:

 

[Bender]

so was tupac aiming for a more social awareness to what he knew and understood, possibly?

 

[-744-]

To open ppl's eyes and inspire them to move towards making "right" so to speak imo

 

[Rahim]

yes i think he was^^

 

[2pacthuglawzjer]

He want us Blacks to show unity n love!!Which has neva been taught Malcolm said that too!Other races got each other back but Black America dont!Pac got his ideas from all the political soldiers before him n put it the way he thought!The brother was a genius!!Pac will neva be forgotten I promise that!!!He has educated me on life more than anyone!!He taught me to speak out bout thing n questin shit!!!How he said he words wit feelin!!Dear Mama all his shit was revolutionary.Pac didnt want Big dead!!The new song Reincarnation.he say "Me,murderer?then lol like he was sayin "I could neva do that!!"He just was mad cuz he Big and warn him!!Hitemup was not a kill Big shit!!It was embarrass u shit,we roll 2gether n u aint tell me?He wanted to embarrass Big .In interviews Pac was sayin"I helped Big wit this n that n in return this brother aint help me!!""Every1 who sides wit Big imma destroy!!Brat,Jay,Kim, they did a track so Pac wanted to embarrass them he wanted them dead in the rap game not in life!!!Thats y I fucked ya bitch!!!The n I got a photo of Pac n Faith he wanted to embarrasss Big!Big was probably told say nothin bout him thats y Big never really dissed him!!He was in a tight spot n chose that over his boy which was wrong!I love Pac his music n messages somtimes wit Pac u gotta read between the lines!!Bad Boy Killa not dead in the streets dead in the industry!!Mobb Deep n Chino r wrong!!They started the beef!!MD claims they shot Pac they didnt!!Lil faggot liars!!!Chino say Pac got raped!!Yeah right!!Man wouldnt let them rob but rob of his manhood?Right!!!He mixed all that shit up in those disses!!Pac u my man foreva no matter how the judge BUCWILD will always Love u!!!

 

[GhettoStar]

The message was clear: dont be afraid to say what's in your heart...to be true to one's self and face your enemies and friends. Dont be afraid to be human and, as a writer, limit yourself in the face of being labled a hyporcite. I think the message he was putting together has become more developed in his death then in life....espcially when you watch Tupac:Reserucation.......

 

[-744-]

The message was clear: dont be afraid to say what's in your heart...to be true to one's self and face your enemies and friends. Dont be afraid to be human and, as a writer, limit yourself in the face of being labled a hyporcite. I think the message he was putting together has become more developed in his death then in life....espcially when you watch Tupac:Reserucation.......

he talks about that in this interview i found yesterday.

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTb7ML-CbO0[/YOUTUBE]

 

[L.McG]

yeah that's a great interview..... did you oly recently become a fan of pac 744?

 

[-744-]

^^ Whenever Ghetto Gospel came out in the charts...that's embarrassin but it was good at the time cos i hadn't heard anythin else except Changes, which I liked but didn't look for the artist. I then got Until the End of Time, Better Dayz, AEOM, SIR, Ressurection, DK7, RUSD, Greatest Hits, MATW, Pac's Life (In that order).
I've got Legacy, The Complete Live Performances, and a stack of Originals and remixes.

 

[L.McG]

cool. I bet you were blown away by all that material lol. then you find out pac was only 25 at the time of his demise.lol poetic genius.

 

[Sebastian]

he talks about that in this interview i found yesterday.

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTb7ML-CbO0[/YOUTUBE]

I could listen to what he had to say for days!..

 

[-744-]

cool. I bet you were blown away by all that material lol. then you find out pac was only 25 at the time of his demise.lol poetic genius.

That was actually what shocked me the most...well surprised probably. The stuff he talks about, the way he puts it, he sounds a lot older...