11/12 Premier League thread

Bobby Sands

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Lampard plays a disciplined role for England. He isn't given licence to get forward. He sits and plays the ball around and retains possession. It's why I hate having Barry in the team. I thought his role was to sit, but whenever they play together it seems Lampard is the defensive midfielder. I personally would rather do without Baryy, Lampard and Gerrard. I prefer the balance of the team with 1 up front with Rooney behind... Then having Jack Wilshire as our attacking midfielder. We still need someone to sit, a job Hargreaves would have been good for.... And 2 quick wingers.
:rolleyes:

and not just part either. the rest of it is nonsense too.

I wish Gerrard would give up England though and just focus on Liverpool.
 

Pittsey

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:rolleyes:

and not just part either. the rest of it is nonsense too.

I wish Gerrard would give up England though and just focus on Liverpool.

From many of your comments I can tell you aren't a football man. You think Rafa is a good manager and you can't pick up any of the tactical aspects of the modern game. It's easy to read what the press say and believe all they wrote about Lampard or whoever they decide to criticise. If it was a Man United player you'd be all over it and claiming I was a United fan because of it.

The Fact is Lampard plays a disciplined role for England under Fabio. It is not his strength. When he played in a more advanced role at the beginning of his England career he scored more goals.

We need to design a formation around our personnel not have a 442 and find players for it. That's why I picked the 433 or 451. We have the players for it. Apart from a great centre forward, that is.

Gerrard has been just as pants for England as Gerrard. Is that why you took offence?

Why you watching England games anyway? I definitely don't watch Republic games, I'd rather watch paint dry.
 

Bobby Sands

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From many of your comments I can tell you aren't a football man. You think Rafa is a good manager and you can't pick up any of the tactical aspects of the modern game. It's easy to read what the press say and believe all they wrote about Lampard or whoever they decide to criticise. If it was a Man United player you'd be all over it and claiming I was a United fan because of it.

The Fact is Lampard plays a disciplined role for England under Fabio. It is not his strength. When he played in a more advanced role at the beginning of his England career he scored more goals.

We need to design a formation around our personnel not have a 442 and find players for it. That's why I picked the 433 or 451. We have the players for it. Apart from a great centre forward, that is.

Gerrard has been just as pants for England as Gerrard. Is that why you took offence?

Why you watching England games anyway? I definitely don't watch Republic games, I'd rather watch paint dry.



this coming from the guy suggesting that England should play with a 442 with Jack Wilshere in the middle and two out and out wingers. Sorry im afraid its you who doesnt have a clue. or was that even what you were suggesting though. It seemed like it was. My bad if it wasnt.

The fact that you think Benitez is a shit manager suggests this too. And then you accuse me of not knowing anything about modern tactics yets you label Rafa Benitez as a shit manager. do you even see the contradiction there? And then you talk about following the general media view, yet its obvious you are guilty of this if you honestly think that Rafa Benitez is a shit manager amongst other stuff you post.

Gerrard was your best player at the world cup and in the qualifiers. But ok England are so good, they can do without a player of that quality :rolleyes: you can just stick the great Jack WIlshere in the centre of midfield alongside Barry and player with two out and out wingers of the quality of Lennon and Young. Id love to see that when England play Spain or Germany next. Nothing modern about a 442 system fyi. Again, im not even sure if thats what you were saying.

I watch England when they are playing in major tournaments to have a good laugh :p thats all. To copy your phrase, normally id rather watch paint dry and tbh id rather watch paint dry than Ireland too :D
 

Pittsey

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this coming from the guy suggesting that England should play with a 442 with Jack Wilshere in the middle and two out and out wingers. Sorry im afraid its you who doesnt have a clue. or was that even what you were suggesting though. It seemed like it was. My bad if it wasnt.

The fact that you think Benitez is a shit manager suggests this too. And then you accuse me of not knowing anything about modern tactics yets you label Rafa Benitez as a shit manager. do you even see the contradiction there? And then you talk about following the general media view, yet its obvious you are guilty of this if you honestly think that Rafa Benitez is a shit manager amongst other stuff you post.

Gerrard was your best player at the world cup and in the qualifiers. But ok England are so good, they can do without a player of that quality :rolleyes: you can just stick the great Jack WIlshere in the centre of midfield alongside Barry and player with two out and out wingers of the quality of Lennon and Young. Id love to see that when England play Spain or Germany next. Nothing modern about a 442 system fyi. Again, im not even sure if thats what you were saying.

I watch England when they are playing in major tournaments to have a good laugh :p thats all. To copy your phrase, normally id rather watch paint dry and tbh id rather watch paint dry than Ireland too :D

LOL. Hook, line and sinker.

You are so defensive. I was going to chuck some Man United in there too, to really reel you in. Predictable. LOL.



On a side note. What a prick Blatter is.
 

tHuG $TyLe

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I kind of agree with Pittsey that without Gerrard it wouldn't be a huge loss, but I wouldn't drop him completely, the best player at the last World Cup for England was not Gerrard, it was..as much as it pains me as I hate him - Ashley Cole. Gerrard scored against USA and did well, but our midfield was poor in the World Cup - Lampard was worse by a country mile though.

When we have played Spain/Germany with Gerrard he has been lost, as has every other player. Gerrard is a world class player, but for the 2014 World Cup do I still want Gerrard there? at the age of 34? Not really. The Euro 2012 tournament if we qualify should be used as a stepping stone for the next World Cup, this means bringing younger players. The only problem is I don't know who can replace Gerrard in the middle, Wilshere is the obvious choice, but..Barry will be too old, Carrick is awful, Lampard won't make it, Parker will be too old - doesn't leave a lot left, the older players have had 4-5 tournaments to prove themselves and they have come up short time and time again.

We can't do any worse by basing our squad on youth.
 

Pittsey

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There are a lot of good young English kids. I think we are starting to benefit from some changes made after Howard Wilkinson left the youth setup. I think there's still more to do though.

The kids need more time to train. They get way, way, way less than Spain or Germany.
We need to get rid of the stupid 90 minute travel rule.
 

tHuG $TyLe

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Josh Mchreachren seems to be highly rated but will he get time on the pitch for Chelsea is the question.

Phil Jones at Blackburn is a good prospect, can play a few positions also.
 

Bobby Sands

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Ryan Gigg's halo has well and truly fallen off lol.

I couldnt have cared last about that Imogen stuff but this is pretty bad i think. makes John Terry look like a saint :)

but one thing that gets me for reading about this stuff is that attitude of the fucking whores. really low pieces of trash who, like Giggs, have no morals whatsoever but they are portrayed like innocent victims.
 

Pittsey

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Ryan Gigg's halo has well and truly fallen off lol.

I couldnt have cared last about that Imogen stuff but this is pretty bad i think. makes John Terry look like a saint :)

but one thing that gets me for reading about this stuff is that attitude of the fucking whores. really low pieces of trash who, like Giggs, have no morals whatsoever but they are portrayed like innocent victims.

I think she works with the papers to earn money. She has no self respect or esteem. But I would smash her back doors in.
 

tHuG $TyLe

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Ryan Gigg's halo has well and truly fallen off lol.

I couldnt have cared last about that Imogen stuff but this is pretty bad i think. makes John Terry look like a saint :)

but one thing that gets me for reading about this stuff is that attitude of the fucking whores. really low pieces of trash who, like Giggs, have no morals whatsoever but they are portrayed like innocent victims.
Yeah pretty much. 20 years of being controversy free he does this. Disgusting and no-one should defend him or the whore involved.

The ones selling it to the papers should be ashamed, how many kids are involved in this? 3-4? meh.
 

Pittsey

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Loads of men (and women) have affairs. I don't feel at all disgusted by it. As long as my moral compass points in the right direction, I am happy.
 

Pittsey

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^^^


lol



It can't be easy to resist 100's of women throwing themselves at you. I have a fragile ego. I'd have to only go to these places with my missus to keep me in check.
 

Pittsey

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^^

Yeah. And I never saw the reason for hating on him. The only person who should have cared dealt with it well. Divorced him, and moved on.
 

Flipmo

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I don't think that many level-headed people cared. Obviously, Tiger went all out and picked up some trashy women, which is what people were surprised with, but lets be honest here - sex sells, and a rich celeb cheating is a 'sexy story'. I'm sure there are footballers out there that are faithful to their wives, but you obviously don't hear about them in the papers because it's a fucking boring story.

Much of the media surrounding this story is just adding fuel to the fire. It's still shady if Giggs was getting jiggy with his brother's wife and thensome. That's like more than cheating, that's just vile, but hey - I don't know the guy... this is kinda all entertaining though lol
 

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