The Way I Am (Part Three)

[Euphanasia]

I've seen Chalese a few times since then. She never brought the subject back up and neither did I. I was planning to the next time I saw her, but after talking to her a few minutes, I already knew the answer.

No big deal. Move on, right? I plan on it. Can't say it makes me happy, though.

I want to talk about Jokerman's idea that we should differentiate between the person we think we are and the person we actually are. I've been thinking about this for only a few minutes. Let me see here, off the top of my head. This is who I think I am. I will be as straightforward and honest as possible.

I think I am kind, funny, honest, fiercely loyal, intelligent, sometimes slightly gullible, shy, sometimes nervous, sociable around friends, very self-conscious, low self esteem, cynical, skeptical, easygoing, very laid back, approachable but non-confrontational, organized, sometimes lazy, too hard on myself, talented in many areas.

Taking that into consideration, the truth is probably closer to this:

I am kind to others, but I often approach people with a certain degree of disdain. I judge them on their appearance, their disposition. The way they talk and how they dress. I am funny, but not so much when I'm nervous. Often the humor is a bit harsh, sometimes directed at another's expense. I am honest, clear in my goals, but I cheat myself out of them by constantly getting myself off track. I guess I'm more scared than I am honest.

Loyalty is my one true, unwavering quality.

I'm smart, but envious of those who I believe to be smarter than I am and frustrated with those I believe to be far less intelligent. I'm shy and nervous in certain situations. I've come a long way with this, but it will always be a part of me. I'm self-conscious in such a way that it is unhealthy and distracting to say the least. My low self-esteem is a product of failed attempts at goals and the fact that I am much too hard on myself.

I'm very easy going. A fellow co-worker just told me yesterday that he had yet to see me get angry a single time in the two and a half years he's worked with me. That's true, but the larger truth is I keep the anger blazing on the inside because I'm too much of a coward to reveal it.

 

[Preach]

Couple of thoughts. Do you see a parallell between how you used to judge people on appearance, and how you find yourself to be terribly self-conscious? Because I used to do this exact thing. Envy is considered to be a very negative thing, and yet every human being is incapable of not feeling it. Narcissism, if you want to call how you are frustrated with less intelligent people that, is another thing that's supposedly laughable and wrong, yet most people show these tendencies as well. It's part of having a male human body. Harsh humor is also normal, but it can mean so much. If it's a mutual thing with a friend it's one thing, but if you poke fun at people at their expense in a way that could insult their pride, that's a completely different thing. Might I be so shrewd as to suggest that the fact that you are doing these things is the very reason why you are self-conscious yourself? If you haven't already thought of that, you're not supposed to answer, but do think about that for a while. I've been very closed to other types of thinking than my own, and i've been very liberal and open-minded. In that order. At first, I realized that people having closed minds were part of a source to my problems in my early teen years. As a sort of reaction, I became ultra liberal. This posed another problem: I actually lost parts of my identity. It's like debating whether a murderer is a bad person or a product of society. Entertaining such a thought can be interesting, but the problem with understanding something is that you become willing to accept more and more. One should never be apologetic of a murderer, but when you realize he only killed because he was buttraped daily by his dad for years and got beaten, you suddenly feel poor for the fella. This clouds anybody's judgment. You lose your moral borders. I realized that my opinions were diminishing and in their stead, what had used to be a firm opinion was now a question followed by a chain of other questions. I tried to view things from so many angles that in certain matters I had difficulty separating right from wrong. When I came out of it all, my realization was that it's important to be firm in some matters but flexible in others. But no one could have told me that. I had to witness the two extremes to land in the middle. That entailed two painful trips. One of bottled up feelings that I couldn't put into words because I didn't look inside myself, and one where I found I had lost part of my character. In the end it turned out I only grew, but it took me time and life-living to see the larger perspective.

Another thing. The last paragraph is funny because my co-workers would tell me this as well. I'm so good and nice, I'm never angry, even when I'm stressed, anxious or depressed, I pretend to be okay for the sake of not making a scene in front of other people. Not because of embarassment, but because it's not my co-workers' business. I didn't need their help or wanted to seek that help from other places, and last but not least of all, it could possibly make them feel uncomfortable. This is something I've consciously done always though because it doesn't really bother me. But I used to have some bottled up anger. Let me ask you, what are you angry about? Because in my experience, anger doesn't just arise from nowhere. It's triggered by fear of the new and unknown, grief over loss of something valuable, or fear of something looming on the horizon. When I hated girls and when I hated people I had so much anger. I don't think I ever fully did the monologue in my head concerning what was causing my anger. I never tried to fully rationalize it, instead, I entertained it and kept fueling myself up. I was convinced every girl out there is a slut. But as I started processing other problems in my life, over time, the anger just disappeared. I don't know because I haven't thought about it in a long while, but I haven't been angry in that way for a year or two.

 

[Preach]

btw, you faggy eminem fanboy.

 

[Shadows]

I've seen Chalese a few times since then. She never brought the subject back up and neither did I. I was planning to the next time I saw her, but after talking to her a few minutes, I already knew the answer.

No big deal. Move on, right? I plan on it. Can't say it makes me happy, though.

I want to talk about Jokerman's idea that we should differentiate between the person we think we are and the person we actually are. I've been thinking about this for only a few minutes. Let me see here, off the top of my head. This is who I think I am. I will be as straightforward and honest as possible.

I think I am kind, funny, honest, fiercely loyal, intelligent, sometimes slightly gullible, shy, sometimes nervous, sociable around friends, very self-conscious, low self esteem, cynical, skeptical, easygoing, very laid back, approachable but non-confrontational, organized, sometimes lazy, too hard on myself, talented in many areas.

Taking that into consideration, the truth is probably closer to this:

I am kind to others, but I often approach people with a certain degree of disdain. I judge them on their appearance, their disposition. The way they talk and how they dress. I am funny, but not so much when I'm nervous. Often the humor is a bit harsh, sometimes directed at another's expense. I am honest, clear in my goals, but I cheat myself out of them by constantly getting myself off track. I guess I'm more scared than I am honest.

Loyalty is my one true, unwavering quality.

I'm smart, but envious of those who I believe to be smarter than I am and frustrated with those I believe to be far less intelligent. I'm shy and nervous in certain situations. I've come a long way with this, but it will always be a part of me. I'm self-conscious in such a way that it is unhealthy and distracting to say the least. My low self-esteem is a product of failed attempts at goals and the fact that I am much too hard on myself.

I'm very easy going. A fellow co-worker just told me yesterday that he had yet to see me get angry a single time in the two and a half years he's worked with me. That's true, but the larger truth is I keep the anger blazing on the inside because I'm too much of a coward to reveal it.

Couple of thoughts. Do you see a parallell between how you used to judge people on appearance, and how you find yourself to be terribly self-conscious? Because I used to do this exact thing. Envy is considered to be a very negative thing, and yet every human being is incapable of not feeling it. Narcissism, if you want to call how you are frustrated with less intelligent people that, is another thing that's supposedly laughable and wrong, yet most people show these tendencies as well. It's part of having a male human body. Harsh humor is also normal, but it can mean so much. If it's a mutual thing with a friend it's one thing, but if you poke fun at people at their expense in a way that could insult their pride, that's a completely different thing. Might I be so shrewd as to suggest that the fact that you are doing these things is the very reason why you are self-conscious yourself? If you haven't already thought of that, you're not supposed to answer, but do think about that for a while. I've been very closed to other types of thinking than my own, and i've been very liberal and open-minded. In that order. At first, I realized that people having closed minds were part of a source to my problems in my early teen years. As a sort of reaction, I became ultra liberal. This posed another problem: I actually lost parts of my identity. It's like debating whether a murderer is a bad person or a product of society. Entertaining such a thought can be interesting, but the problem with understanding something is that you become willing to accept more and more. One should never be apologetic of a murderer, but when you realize he only killed because he was buttraped daily by his dad for years and got beaten, you suddenly feel poor for the fella. This clouds anybody's judgment. You lose your moral borders. I realized that my opinions were diminishing and in their stead, what had used to be a firm opinion was now a question followed by a chain of other questions. I tried to view things from so many angles that in certain matters I had difficulty separating right from wrong. When I came out of it all, my realization was that it's important to be firm in some matters but flexible in others. But no one could have told me that. I had to witness the two extremes to land in the middle. That entailed two painful trips. One of bottled up feelings that I couldn't put into words because I didn't look inside myself, and one where I found I had lost part of my character. In the end it turned out I only grew, but it took me time and life-living to see the larger perspective.

Another thing. The last paragraph is funny because my co-workers would tell me this as well. I'm so good and nice, I'm never angry, even when I'm stressed, anxious or depressed, I pretend to be okay for the sake of not making a scene in front of other people. Not because of embarassment, but because it's not my co-workers' business. I didn't need their help or wanted to seek that help from other places, and last but not least of all, it could possibly make them feel uncomfortable. This is something I've consciously done always though because it doesn't really bother me. But I used to have some bottled up anger. Let me ask you, what are you angry about? Because in my experience, anger doesn't just arise from nowhere. It's triggered by fear of the new and unknown, grief over loss of something valuable, or fear of something looming on the horizon. When I hated girls and when I hated people I had so much anger. I don't think I ever fully did the monologue in my head concerning what was causing my anger. I never tried to fully rationalize it, instead, I entertained it and kept fueling myself up. I was convinced every girl out there is a slut. But as I started processing other problems in my life, over time, the anger just disappeared. I don't know because I haven't thought about it in a long while, but I haven't been angry in that way for a year or two.

I can see we 3 have stuff in common. Me more so with Preach when it comes to why he was angry (particularly with women). As for what we all have in common, i would say specifically with the work place.

Now let me ask you two, who do you or did you show your feelings to when your angry/ were angry? It was obviously not @ work.

The difference between your answers will probably provide answers to why one is angry and why the other is not anymore.

Because i can honestly say that im @ the phase of not being angry anymore...but still have my little ticks. However, its coming to a point in time where i am not getting angry at things that usually push my buttons.

 

[Casey]

Sounds like you have anger management issues, I do too.

I.e - Things that should make you angry, don't. But every now and then (usually pretty rarely), something small will just make you explode in rage. When I have those moments, it's like someone has flicked a switch on in my head and I just blow the fuck up.

 

[Shadows]

Sounds like you have anger management issues, I do too.

I.e - Things that should make you angry, don't. But every now and then (usually pretty rarely), something small will just make you explode in rage. When I have those moments, it's like someone has flicked a switch on in my head and I just blow the fuck up.

yah, i used to not have anger emotions...at all...even during puberty like some/most people go through.

But Preach put it in perfect words for me.

"anger doesn't just arise from nowhere. It's triggered by fear of the new and unknown, grief over loss of something valuable, or fear of something looming on the horizon"

I think after my friend died (for no good reason), i thought i was still the nice guy and all that...and went through a phase of being angry and underserving? Useless? I dont know, i cant find the 2nd word to what i truly felt.

But my mom noticed i was an Angry person. I didnt want nothing to do with Counseling because i knew everything it was about. I studied psychology so i had the attitude of fuck that. It wont help. its shit that i go through that will make me better or worse, not no psychologist.

Then i seen light. I met someone. I learned i needed someone by my side to be the real me. She taught me that i wasn't by myself and that i was a great person. I tried full-filling the CISCO rule without knowing it. But then i was let down. HARD.

Now, i still believe that i am nice, but now i tell it like it is. I figure why save peoples feelings? Its not helping them in any way, however when i say it, i say it bluntly (like an asswhole) but i also tell them about their good traits and why they are unique individuals.

As far as the angry stuff, i guess i just learned to not expect anything.The only person that hasnt let me down in this world that i been close to is my mother...but she taught me not to expect anything from her.

Once i can truly see everything like that then i wont get let down. I cant expect to see anyone around me anymore. I just treat them like its the last time i will see them.

Now, let me get more in depth with the expectancy issue:

Lets say i go apply somewhere because i was laid off (this Wednesday actually), of course, i will apply to somewhere where i will get hired to b/c of my experience, but that doesnt mean i expect to get hired. If i get a card in the mail saying "We are sorry but this job just is not for you." (which i have received before) i wont get mad. I will just keep fighting it all out.

If my family members or girl does something i didn't expect them to do, it wont let me down any more. i guess i just pretend i didn't expect anything at all...then i just go by showing love and then guess that i will get it back or not.

Doing this helps me get mellow until i hardly ever get mad about anything...now until i can find a way of doing things that will allow me to expect and not get angry, (which i think i am but i cant explain how) then i will be like this for a while so i can be a better person for not just me, but for the people around me.

 

[Euphanasia]

The last paragraph is funny because my co-workers would tell me this as well. I'm so good and nice, I'm never angry, even when I'm stressed, anxious or depressed, I pretend to be okay for the sake of not making a scene in front of other people. This is something I've consciously done always though because it doesn't really bother me. But I used to have some bottled up anger. Let me ask you, what are you angry about?

I've thought quite a lot about this. It's really a great number of things. I reached a point about a year or two ago when I began to feel like everything everybody told me growing up was a lie. I was raised Catholic and by a mother who was/is so infatuated with her religion that rebuking any aspect of it could potentially threaten her physical health. My brother and I would not only have to attend church every Sunday, but often in the summertime we would be forced to go with her every day, say the rosary each night. Growing up in an environment like this for so long (I didn't move out until college at 18) makes you into a certain kind of person. Everything that you do and say is filtered through this religious mindset. It took me years before I was finally able to gradually see the holes in religion. By my junior year in college, I was profoundly confused. For me, education was tearing down the walls of this religious nonsense gradually, but I was at a loss at what I truly believed. It's profoundly difficult to cast aside the ideologies that have been pounded into your skull your whole life. I stopped attending church. I began to get angry. Was it really all bullshit? Had I wasted my youth believing in this nonsense?

I decided at that particular point (21 years old) that God was real, but religion wasn't. It would take 3-4 more years before I finally reached the point where I came to the realization that none of it was real. Religion was nonsense that offered hope to the hopeless, brought them comfort. It's kind of like the movie, "The Matrix," actually. I had to decide whether I wanted to live in ignorant bliss or face the much harsher reality that death is an end, not an outlet to eternal life or eternal fire.

At age 25, I no longer considered myself a Catholic, but an agnostic. Few people know this.

So I am very angry about this because it took me until the age of 25 (I'm now 26) to shed myself off all this bullshit and it could have so easily been avoided if no one had taught me it. I don't blame my mother, however because she is so immersed in the facade that I consider her to be irrevocably brainwashed. She knows that I don't attend church and it bothers her immensely. I have to bite my tongue when I go home to visit and religion is much of what she talks to me about. I see my younger brothers and sisters being fed the same propaganda I was fed and it drives me insane. I want to rid them of this bullshit but I can't because I fear my mother might have a breakdown.

I agree to attend church once a year on Christmas, only because I prefer to be a hypocrite once a year than watch my mother suffer some kind of stroke.

So, Preach, this is only one of the things that I'm angry about. There are others that I will share, I just don't have room in this one post to do it so I'll follow with others.

And anger really isn't a strong enough word, it's probably rage.

 

[Bobby Sands]

if you are depressed then go get some help. that might sound harsh but there is no point talking about it here.

oh and if you dont want to go to church anymore, dont go at Christmas either. THats just being a complete hypocrite imo.

So religion is the cause of all your problems is it? And there is no God because of these problems? Thats what it seems like you are saying. Just because you conclude that their is nothing after death, doesnt make it a harsh reality btw.

*waits for more anti religion, anti god comments from other members*

 

[Jokerman]

*waits for more anti-religion, anti-god comments from other members*

Your wait is now over.

But I don't think that's exactly what he was saying. He didn't say religion was the cause of all his problems. He said wasting his time with religious nonsense for so long is part of the reason he's angry.

And sure it does good to talk about it here. Sometimes you can get insight that you didn't have before.

 

[Bobby Sands]

^^i guess so but if this is guy is really depressed then i think he should get help.

Perhaps he is just down over things for now but i hope he snaps out of it soon. i am actually a bit worried after reading his posts.

as for religion. i dont see why he feels he has wasted his time. How has it done him harm. maybe i need to know more about what he is saying here. Personally i feel religion has helped me be a better person even if it doesnt turn out to be the reality but to each his own i guess.

 

[Jokerman]

as for religion. i dont see why he feels he has wasted his time. How has it done him harm.

I don't know if you're Catholic, but Catholicism is a particularly oppressive form of Christianity. It's not about going to church and singing and clapping your hands and then hearing a nice story and lesson about Jesus, as it is in most non-traditional churches. It's full of all kinds of rituals and confession and guilt and sin. And if the sermon isn't in Latin, then it's the most boring thing imaginable. No one brings you up to "love your neighbor" and "do unto others." Catholics aren't even supposed to read the Bible.

 

[Euphanasia]

^^i guess so but if this is guy is really depressed then i think he should get help.

Perhaps he is just down over things for now but i hope he snaps out of it soon. i am actually a bit worried after reading his posts.

as for religion. i dont see why he feels he has wasted his time. How has it done him harm. maybe i need to know more about what he is saying here. Personally i feel religion has helped me be a better person even if it doesnt turn out to be the reality but to each his own i guess.

it's not that i'm really depressed, just down. i'm sure it will pass somewhere down the road. i do appreciate your concern, however.

preach asked what i was angry about and there are several issues, religion just happened to be the one i started with. it is surely not the cause of all or even most of my problems.

i feel that it has done me harm because i spent the majority of my life believing in a lie. i was told things like, everything happens for a reason, god has a plan, do good and your soul will never die, the wicked will burn in hell for all eternity. when these ideas are burned into your mind, it shapes your perception, it shapes who you become.

when you discover, as I did, that it is untrue, it really fucks you up inside. i do not mean to imply that this is true for all people. i'm just saying that it is true for me.

 

[Euphanasia]

so, just to add on here, i feel like i have to start all over in this new, more enlightened mindset. I have to re-evaluate and reshape all my views and beliefs, find myself in this new world that is void of all the pretense that was spoon-fed to me for so many years. I don't know if you can relate to that, but surely you must understand?

 

[Jokerman]

Let me address anger.

I think you feel rage because you internalized the anger of having wasted your time with religion. You argue it in your head because you can’t argue with your mother. The many things you’d like to say will run through your mind, and you may berate yourself for not standing up for what you believe. At the same time, you’re angry because you can’t say anything because you don’t want to hurt her. You’re angry with her, even though you don’t blame her because she's a victim of it too, but the anger is still there.

In this way, you carry multiple unresolved conflicts with you through life. And when you finally do express yourself from this passive position, the response is generally out of context. You may express such rage that you end up hurting yourself and others. Needless to say, you can never solve your problems constructively in this manner.

Meditate on the situation. What does your higher self say to you about it?

You feel betrayed by the lies of your religious upbringing. In a sense, you lost a normal childhood. Shadows is angry because he lost someone close. It made him feel powerless in the face of it. You, Preach, and most everyone wasted time trying to be with someone who didn’t want them or used them. That’s loss too, and a kind of self-betrayal.

This goes for everyone. The more attachment you feel toward a person or thing, the more its loss will provoke anger. You feel frustrated, fearful, powerless and, ultimately, angry in the face of it. Many people withdraw from their anger and deny its existence. But the denial of anger can lead to passive-aggressive behavior. You smile on the outside but feel angry on the inside. Your negativity expresses itself in behaviors for which you cannot be clearly blamed but that cause distress for others. For example, do you overcommit yourself and then drag your feet about doing what you said you would do? Do you make nasty comments and then tell the other person that you were only joking?

Have an honest dialogue with yourself each morning about what is bothering you. Give yourself time to reflect on these issues in a place where you will not be distracted. Share your feelings with someone who will understand your needs and your reason for being angry without criticizing or judging you. Evaluate one issue at a time. Keep yourself focused on finding and promoting solutions until the problem is resolved.

When your pain and fear no longer serve you, learn to let go of them. By doing so, you will be free to express yourself constructively. Remember that you cannot feel freedom until the pain is removed; these opposing feelings cannot exist at the same time. Look at the causes of your pain and fear. Examine these feelings and say, “You’ve been with me for a long time, but I no longer need you. I’m going to try something else.” Let it go, knowing that something better will take its place. Continue to reaffirm this goal and you will find a way to accomplish it.

Your ability to channel anger can make all the difference in whether your feelings are positive or negative. We may silence our anger because we don’t want to be punished for expressing our true feelings. But anger is fine. It’s a normal, healthy emotion. But it needs to be channeled constructively. Rather than hurt someone, or go into a depression, you can let anger motivate you to go out and do something positive. When your anger is justified and focused, it can only be healing to express it. Our society uses control to keep you from speaking out in your best interests. Losing control is healthy if it turns a negative situation into a positive one. When I see something I feel is wrong, I try to change it. It may be something in the environment or something to do with nutrition or medicine. Whenever I see abuse going on, I respond to it, but never with wanton anger or rage. It must be peaceful, positive, and creative anger.

There comes a time when you must redirect your spirit and intellect to develop the persona you will project the rest of your life. That means you will have to be responsible for all of your actions all the time. You will have to choose the options that move your life in a more powerful and positive direction. Now’s the time to get going and do it.

 

[Bobby Sands]

it's not that i'm really depressed, just down. i'm sure it will pass somewhere down the road. i do appreciate your concern, however.

preach asked what i was angry about and there are several issues, religion just happened to be the one i started with. it is surely not the cause of all or even most of my problems.

i feel that it has done me harm because i spent the majority of my life believing in a lie. i was told things like, everything happens for a reason, god has a plan, do good and your soul will never die, the wicked will burn in hell for all eternity. when these ideas are burned into your mind, it shapes your perception, it shapes who you become.

when you discover, as I did, that it is untrue, it really fucks you up inside. i do not mean to imply that this is true for all people. i'm just saying that it is true for me.

well i guess i will find out when i die. How will i ever discover that while i am alive and how could you have?

 

[Euphanasia]

I think you feel rage because you internalized the anger of having wasted your time with religion. You argue it in your head because you can’t argue with your mother. The many things you’d like to say will run through your mind, and you may berate yourself for not standing up for what you believe. At the same time, you’re angry because you can’t say anything because you don’t want to hurt her. You’re angry with her, even though you don’t blame her because she's a victim of it too, but the anger is still there.

Meditate on the situation. What does your higher self say to you about it?

You feel betrayed by the lies of your religious upbringing. In a sense, you lost a normal childhood.

Have an honest dialogue with yourself each morning about what is bothering you.
When your pain and fear no longer serve you, learn to let go of them.

i think you're right. i do feel rage and i have internalized the anger. for quite some time, i argued in my head because i couldn't argue with my mother. however, i'm at a point now where i am no longer arguing; that is, i'm no longer harboring ambivalent feelings. i have taken time (a couple years, actually) to reflect upon everything but now i'm looking back at all that wasted time - time that i can never get back and that should never have been taken from me. and yes, my mother is a victim, as i was, but i was fortunate enough to overcome it, break free of the mindless bubble that trapped me throughout my childhood. perhaps i have internalized the anger because i really have no one to blame. i can't blame my mother because she is only a victim like i was.

my higher self tells me that religion is nonsense. people need hope; people need to believe in something greater than themselves because life is hard and humans feel compelled to find meaning. it seems much too harsh to lose a loved one, a good, kind and caring person who deserved much more than they got from life and think that they are nothing more than a corpse rotting in the ground. people need to believe that their sacrifices and pain they've endured are not in vain. they need to believe that that the serial killer and the child molester will pay for their sins in a fiery hell. but it's not true.

so now the result is an interesting dualism. on one hand, i'm enraged at the time i lost and the lies i feel i was told. and now that i am enlightened, i carry this colossal burden of truth in knowledge in a world where i feel the majority of people are blind to reality. i turn on the news and hear about suicide bombings in the name of God. my mind screams, "what the fuck?"

I don't know how to let go of the anger because this dualism seems unable to be resolved.

 

[Euphanasia]

well i guess i will find out when i die. How will i ever discover that while i am alive and how could you have?

it's not about "figuring it out." like you said, if it's true, you will find out when you die and if it's untrue, you won't find out because you'll be dead.

try looking at the issue from another angle. you live your life ignorant of what will happen in the future. all you can do is use the information you have to make the most rational and prudent decision. no one can ask you to do more.

the issue is that there is no more evidence that god exists than there is that my computer will turn into a tangerine by the conclusion of my reply. you can't know and it's not your fault that you can't know.

there probably isn't a god and if there is, how can you be blamed for not knowing He existed?

you were born into a world and into a life that you didn't ask for. there are myriad religions with their codes of conducts and their proposed truths and teachings. more blood has been spilled over religion than anything else in human history. there is no evidence to support belief in something you cannot know exists. all you can do is be a good person. be kind to others, do the best you can with the time you have. if it turns out a god exists when your time on earth has passed, you cannot be blamed for not knowing about it while you were alive.

 

[Da_Funk]

Does anyone else feel like they're listening to a Dr. Phil promo or some other self help author when reading jokerman's post?

 

[Sebastian]

Kind of, yes. I bet he feels like some members here need some help and guidance so he tries to be their light in the dark. LoL.

 

[Preach]

Kind of, yes. I bet he feels like some members here need some help and guidance so he tries to be their light in the dark. LoL.

Well, people do request his thoughts on things like this because he normally has good advice to give. Don't mock the guiding light, I'm sure you would be thrilled if he gave you an outlook on love :love: