why tupac is a genious

#21
Harry potter said:
"Poetry power and pistols...."

I think when he rap's with the front part of the word rather then the end is part of what makes his work genious.
There is no genius in using alliteration. Many lesser writers in a variety of fields have incorporated this straightforward technique to good effect.

Harry potter said:
"Henceforth we came in packs"

his Use of Old English(No not Ol' E 800 LOL) I also think is something he dose that seperates him from the rest.
This isn't exactly 'Old English' as the word is still used today. Furthermore, even if you were to consider it 'Old English' using it doesn't make you a genius.


imcominharder said:
and he epitomized thug life, almost as the metaphorical symbol for the 'gangsta' lifestyle. And then u have to mention that he felt he had to die for this lifestyle in similar fashion to the way Jesus died for our sins...
I would prefer that you didn't talk bullshit but if you insist on doing it, please use correct grammar.

WCsoul said:
cause he had embition
'Ambition' doesn't make you nor your work ingenious.

fain said:
He was genius because he lived his life for other people and for the whole hip hop movement.
No he didn't & even if he did that doesn't make him a genius.
 
#22
I think (and this is my opinion) that Tupac was a genius because of the way he moved people and related to real issues with his music & poetry and the way that he touched his audience with his words.
 
#23
i think 2pac is a genious becuase after all the tracks he made he didnt fall off....or resort 2 puttin out whack shit [i.e "clickedy clank, clickedy clank, the money goes into my piggy bank" lmao ]

on a serious note tho he's not a genius, he's a dude that had a various amount of knowledge and understanding/awareness of the way society works......he's not a genius he's just a smart and complex dude, that knew how to communicate effectively thru music, and had a heart of persistance 2 make a change....now on the other hand 50 cent is the real fuckin genius [j/k] :rolleyes: :thumb:
 

Chronic

Well-Known Member
#24
When you decided on writing about 2Pac being a genious, did you have any arguments at all?
I highly doubt any valid arguments will be made in this thread.
 
#25
CalcuoCuchicheo said:
I would prefer that you didn't talk bullshit but if you insist on doing it, please use correct grammar.
wtf u talking about, if u dont know u need proof when u talk to me by now ur a stupid fuck, now prove what u meant or just keep being a faggot.
:thumb:
 
#27
Definition of Genius

1.Extraordinary intellectual and creative power.

2.A person of extraordinary intellect and talent: "One is not born a genius, one becomes a genius" (Simone de Beauvoir).

3.A person who has an exceptionally high intelligence quotient, typically above 140.

4.A strong natural talent, aptitude, or inclination: has a genius for choosing the right words.

5.One who has such a talent or inclination: a genius at diplomacy.
The prevailing spirit or distinctive character, as of a place, a person, or an era: the genius of Elizabethan England.

pl. ge·ni·i (jn-) KEY Roman Mythology A tutelary deity or guardian spirit of a person or place.

6.A person who has great influence over another.

7.A jinni in Muslim mythology.
 
#28
imcominharder said:
wtf u talking about, if u dont know u need proof when u talk to me by now ur a stupid fuck, now prove what u meant or just keep being a faggot.
OK. Prove what I meant by 'bullshit' & your grammatical errors....

imcominharder said:
And then u have to mention that he felt he had to die for this lifestyle in similar fashion to the way Jesus died for our sins...
This is bullshit.

imcominharder said:
and he epitomized thug life, almost as the metaphorical symbol for the 'gangsta' lifestyle.
This is an error in grammar.....you fucking faggot.
 
#29
whoever compared tupac to jesus is not right in his head.

jesus sacraficed himself to save us
tupac died because he talked too much shit


tupac wasnt a genius, not on any level, lyrically he was average, and didnt do anything that hasnt been done before. if tupac was a genius as a rapper, then id classify a lot of rappers ahead of him cause there were about 200 people who had a better gift of word than him.




pz
 
#32
CalcuoCuchicheo said:
OK. Prove what I meant by 'bullshit' & your grammatical errors....



This is bullshit.



This is an error in grammar.....you fucking faggot.

The cover of Makaveli proves that nothing I said was bullshit.

Error in Grammer?, Is this the fucking Regents English Exam? If a point is successfully relayed from sender to receiver, gramatical errors are trivialized.

Pointing out grammatical errors and typos is a pussy way to take validity away from the original point, which was...

If u want a Metaphor for 'thuglife' and the media dubbed 'Gangsta Lifestyle', one could use Tupac. Think about it.
 
#33
Story said:
whoever compared tupac to jesus is not right in his head.

jesus sacraficed himself to save us
tupac died because he talked too much shit


tupac wasnt a genius, not on any level, lyrically he was average, and didnt do anything that hasnt been done before. if tupac was a genius as a rapper, then id classify a lot of rappers ahead of him cause there were about 200 people who had a better gift of word than him.




pz
Soooo i guess your saying Tupac wasnt right in the head because he put himself in Jesus' position on the cover of Makaveli.

U have a right to ur opinion
 
#34
imcominharder said:
Soooo i guess your saying Tupac wasnt right in the head because he put himself in Jesus' position on the cover of Makaveli.

U have a right to ur opinion

right because thats what i said :rolleyes:


what a joke
 
#35
CalcuoCuchicheo said:
'Ambition' doesn't make you nor your work ingenious.


ambition makes you want something really really really bad. 2pac was all around smart, academically. Combine those 2 together, you got dope ass tracks.
 

Pittsey

Knock, Knock...
Staff member
#36
Genius is a bit too strong a word.
If you're going to measure 2pac on his rap skills i.e flow, lyrical content, rhyme structure. He will come up short against many other rappers.
But if you measure 2pac against how much he touches your heart, there is no other rapper to compare. How much emotion he puts into his music, again he stands out.
Someone who cared for the black man and the underdog in a world of selfish, image conscious entertainers.
Someone who understood the world around him and saw answers to the problems faced in the hood, if only he could make people listen.
Someone who 8 years after his death still has millions of fans who argue over stupid points on the internet and who want to lynch eminem because they blame him for ruining the precious limited 2pac album release.
He obviously touched a lot of people how many other rappers or entertainers have this effect? He was more than a rapper but less than a genius. To compare him with Christ is blasphemous, but to compare him with a modern day black revolutionary would be a better comparison.
As tupac said "I may not change the world, but I guarantee I'll spark the mind that does".
 
#37
I dont know if he is a genuis or not. All I know of him is pressed on disc (excluding Interviews). If everything is right, what many ppl in sometimes simply lyrics interpret (IMO too much), then I would say yes, otherwise I say he is one of the best things that happend to rap.
 
#38
WCsoul said:
ambition makes you want something really really really bad. 2pac was all around smart, academically. Combine those 2 together, you got dope ass tracks.
2Pac was smart, but not that smart & he wasn't academic.

Like I say, ambition is an admirable trait & one that is a major factor in success but it does not make someone a genius.


imcominharder said:
The cover of Makaveli proves that nothing I said was bullshit.
I think not....

imcominharder said:
If a point is successfully relayed from sender to receiver, gramatical errors are trivialized.
This is true but note the 'if'. I speak & write in the English language, when one does not post in such, it makes it noteably harder for the 'receiver' to understand the 'sender'. Your post attempted to make a point but as there was wayward grammar, that point was marred.

imcominharder said:
Soooo i guess your saying Tupac wasnt right in the head because he put himself in Jesus' position on the cover of Makaveli.
Hahahahahaha!!

It's probably for the best that Story dismissed you....
 
#39
Pittsey said:
Genius is a bit too strong a word.
If you're going to measure 2pac on his rap skills i.e flow, lyrical content, rhyme structure. He will come up short against many other rappers.
But if you measure 2pac against how much he touches your heart, there is no other rapper to compare. How much emotion he puts into his music, again he stands out.
Someone who cared for the black man and the underdog in a world of selfish, image conscious entertainers.
Someone who understood the world around him and saw answers to the problems faced in the hood, if only he could make people listen.
Someone who 8 years after his death still has millions of fans who argue over stupid points on the internet and who want to lynch eminem because they blame him for ruining the precious limited 2pac album release.
He obviously touched a lot of people how many other rappers or entertainers have this effect? He was more than a rapper but less than a genius. To compare him with Christ is blasphemous, but to compare him with a modern day black revolutionary would be a better comparison.
As tupac said "I may not change the world, but I guarantee I'll spark the mind that does".
:thumb:
 
#40
a lot of writers and in common knowledge you recognize someone as genius, when the world is diffrent from the world before through this human beeing. So when the person had/has an important and positive impact in the world. That's what they said about Einstein, and it's definetly right, when you look at Pac. He had much influence, not even on the hip hop game, even more on so many individuals...



ghost7 said:
wusup everyone.
i am currently writing a paper on 2pac in english class on Why he is misunderstood but i also have to incorporate why he is a genious.
i would be very appreciative if u guys can give me a couple of examples on what he did that was genious.
thx
 

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