Well, I get what he's saying. I don't have a problem with it, but I have noticed how you very rarely share deep personal thoughts and ideas. They're personal to you, I get that. In the same way "a person like you" fails to understand why "someone like Sebastian" value those opinions/thoughts that you don't like sharing, someone like Sebastian would fail to understand why you won't share those thoughts. Think about it Thuggie. You, like me and everyone else speak from the capacity of your experiences. You see the world through eyes that were shaped by events in your life. I'll agree arguing about you not posting longer posts is retarded, but by the same logic, so is arguing that Sebastian shouldn't expect it from you.
Obviously, a guy like me wouldn't turn down a longer Thuggie post ;p
This is another thing I wanna add my two cents to. Okay, just bear with me here. So, you lived a life of 23 years you said? So in those 23 years you've seen and experienced a lot. You were first a religious person, then you gave it up (or you converted, but I choose not to believe that, and if that's the case, assume for the rest of the paragraph that it was the first way around). From your time as a religious person you would have certain thoughts. Misconceptions about the world, the universe. Partially from religious propaganda, partially because you were younger then. Then you became an atheist, and now you can look back on your time as being religious person through renewed eyes. This gives you a certain perspective. It would be unnatural for you to think, let's say for example that the earth is flat. That idea doesn't fit into your given perspective. So far we agree, yes?
When I, or Sebastian, say something like... "I wish you'd post more", that desire comes from a certain perspective as well. I'm not gonna give a life story, but I definitely have a life story. Without me having said anything about it, there is no reason for you to think that I haven't lead an at least as "difficult" life as you, or that I haven't gained at least the same amount of insight into self and others. It would be ludicrous of you to believe that anyone on here has an IQ way above yours even though they come off as a blithering moron to you. The reasons we disagree aren't because some people are right and some people are wrong, it's because we all have different opinions. Some people are just more narrow minded in the way they read and take part of larger discussions. It's difficult to keep your tongue straight when talking about things that to you as a person would be hypothetical, but just because you don't understand something doesn't make it wrong. But you know that. Which brings me to:
Hmm. Let me try to come up with a scenario that could very well be true. Let's say I was an altar boy when I was young. Let's pretend I was brought up in a Christian home with a single mother because my dad died in a work accident, or ran out on us when I was a baby. Let's assume that mother never quite knew how to deal with father's death and so turned to religion out of desperation. She loves it and would never let it go. Let's say my local minister touches me and I hated Christianity for my entire youth. Let's say I feel like my mother would be a happier woman if she moved on, instead of turning into a religious nut. And the one thing I want most in the world is to open her eyes, but it's difficult, so I come here to train my arguments so I know what to tell her.
Or let's say I have a condition, it's like ticks, and I just have to argue anything I disagree with if I happen to read it.
Is either two the case for my life story or not? Maybe. Can you know whether it would be when you read someone's post on here and deem that arguing similar topics over time isn't beneficial to the person in some way you just don't understand? Rhetorical, but for the record, no, you can't. With that information in mind I find it funny how people are so brash in voicing their otherwise poorly thought-out opinions that so transparently stem from nothing but their own experiences. People will say in a discussion how they are presenting objective arguments but all the arguments they pull out are formed from a subjective point of view - in particular, yours. It might be silly to argue religion with religious nuts over and over again, but just because you don't understand my motivation, what I hope to get out of it, or what it does for me, that doesn't mean there probably isn't some good reason deep down. Why not ask someone why they do something instead of telling them how fucking stupid it is?
But let's face it. People's motivations in discussions even change from day to day. Some days I feel cocky, other days I feel sentimental, others maybe funny or witty or I have a clever idea. Some days I just wanna make someone else feel bad about their bullshit because it happens to me, it happens to all of us, every now and again. So we're all bitter at each other for being idiots I guess. Some times I make a shitty post cause it was a bad day for me, some times others do. Everyone has a bad habit that someone else would find annoyingly retarded, and everyone also get annoyed by stupid little things because the emotion of anger is recreational. It means you didn't experience anything "real" that invoked the emotion your body is designed to have, so by habitual pattern your brain would find the biggest evil it could find in that moment. Some times that'll be "Thuggie you suck for not sharing your opinions" and some times it'll be "Get the fuck out of here Jesus lovers". But let's not pretend we haven't all had low points in our life lol, and try to capitalize too much on other people's weaknesses.
It's like when Young Buck acts all hard on his tracks, then he cries to 50 over the phone and goes on a mountain trip to talk about his feelings to a camera, then he's back acting all hard in his music. The shit gets me pumped but it's also fucking transparent.
Obviously, a guy like me wouldn't turn down a longer Thuggie post ;p
This is another thing I wanna add my two cents to. Okay, just bear with me here. So, you lived a life of 23 years you said? So in those 23 years you've seen and experienced a lot. You were first a religious person, then you gave it up (or you converted, but I choose not to believe that, and if that's the case, assume for the rest of the paragraph that it was the first way around). From your time as a religious person you would have certain thoughts. Misconceptions about the world, the universe. Partially from religious propaganda, partially because you were younger then. Then you became an atheist, and now you can look back on your time as being religious person through renewed eyes. This gives you a certain perspective. It would be unnatural for you to think, let's say for example that the earth is flat. That idea doesn't fit into your given perspective. So far we agree, yes?
When I, or Sebastian, say something like... "I wish you'd post more", that desire comes from a certain perspective as well. I'm not gonna give a life story, but I definitely have a life story. Without me having said anything about it, there is no reason for you to think that I haven't lead an at least as "difficult" life as you, or that I haven't gained at least the same amount of insight into self and others. It would be ludicrous of you to believe that anyone on here has an IQ way above yours even though they come off as a blithering moron to you. The reasons we disagree aren't because some people are right and some people are wrong, it's because we all have different opinions. Some people are just more narrow minded in the way they read and take part of larger discussions. It's difficult to keep your tongue straight when talking about things that to you as a person would be hypothetical, but just because you don't understand something doesn't make it wrong. But you know that. Which brings me to:
Hmm. Let me try to come up with a scenario that could very well be true. Let's say I was an altar boy when I was young. Let's pretend I was brought up in a Christian home with a single mother because my dad died in a work accident, or ran out on us when I was a baby. Let's assume that mother never quite knew how to deal with father's death and so turned to religion out of desperation. She loves it and would never let it go. Let's say my local minister touches me and I hated Christianity for my entire youth. Let's say I feel like my mother would be a happier woman if she moved on, instead of turning into a religious nut. And the one thing I want most in the world is to open her eyes, but it's difficult, so I come here to train my arguments so I know what to tell her.
Or let's say I have a condition, it's like ticks, and I just have to argue anything I disagree with if I happen to read it.
Is either two the case for my life story or not? Maybe. Can you know whether it would be when you read someone's post on here and deem that arguing similar topics over time isn't beneficial to the person in some way you just don't understand? Rhetorical, but for the record, no, you can't. With that information in mind I find it funny how people are so brash in voicing their otherwise poorly thought-out opinions that so transparently stem from nothing but their own experiences. People will say in a discussion how they are presenting objective arguments but all the arguments they pull out are formed from a subjective point of view - in particular, yours. It might be silly to argue religion with religious nuts over and over again, but just because you don't understand my motivation, what I hope to get out of it, or what it does for me, that doesn't mean there probably isn't some good reason deep down. Why not ask someone why they do something instead of telling them how fucking stupid it is?
But let's face it. People's motivations in discussions even change from day to day. Some days I feel cocky, other days I feel sentimental, others maybe funny or witty or I have a clever idea. Some days I just wanna make someone else feel bad about their bullshit because it happens to me, it happens to all of us, every now and again. So we're all bitter at each other for being idiots I guess. Some times I make a shitty post cause it was a bad day for me, some times others do. Everyone has a bad habit that someone else would find annoyingly retarded, and everyone also get annoyed by stupid little things because the emotion of anger is recreational. It means you didn't experience anything "real" that invoked the emotion your body is designed to have, so by habitual pattern your brain would find the biggest evil it could find in that moment. Some times that'll be "Thuggie you suck for not sharing your opinions" and some times it'll be "Get the fuck out of here Jesus lovers". But let's not pretend we haven't all had low points in our life lol, and try to capitalize too much on other people's weaknesses.
It's like when Young Buck acts all hard on his tracks, then he cries to 50 over the phone and goes on a mountain trip to talk about his feelings to a camera, then he's back acting all hard in his music. The shit gets me pumped but it's also fucking transparent.
